Calvin Klein, 79, pictured with 34 year old partner.....one can smell the dentures from here......

BEHOLD, the ravages of age!!

Just yuck.

[quote] ahead of Father's Day

Calvin reminded me of this sped up ageing clip from Indiana Jones

Boy, if ever there were someone who should no longer be wearing jeans, it's Calvin Klein.

I remember seeing him at a dance club twenty-three years ago in Trastevere in Rome, and thinking even at the time he was far too old and skinny to be dressing the way he did.

Eeeuw! An old person!

His boyfriend looks like Henry Cavill.

Omg dentures have smells?

Klein looks fairly decent in the gala pic, with Kevin, wearing all black. But the first two pics, yikes. Casual wear and daylight are not his friend.

I wish my sugar daddy had this kind of money. Instead of asking me three times if I still needed it.

If this ain't love

Or this...If those crazy kids can't make a go of it, what hope is there for the rest of us!

By most accounts, CK is a very decent person and if I could partner with someone much younger at his age, then why not.

I don't understand how someone who is supposed to have a heightened sense of aesthetics, would have so very little self-awareness when it comes to the way he both looks and dresses. Mr Klein looks like he has been embalmed in vinegar and he's been given clothes 4 sizes too big - in short, he doesn't look well at all.

R11 and R12, the look on both younger partners' faces says everything; the both of them look like they would rather be ANYWHERE but THERE. And R13, there is partnering with someone much younger and then, there is partnering with someone young enough to be your grandchild. There is a limit to everything and people ought to know when they are making a public embarassment of themselves.

Mark looks blousy. He's let himself go like a straight husband.

"A very decent person"? If you read the Steven Gaines biography from the 1990s, that's not the impression you would come away with. CK used to be very handsome, and he also used to be full of brilliant ideas for making money, but "very decent" is not the words that would come to mind to describe him from that book. He came across instead as a narcissistic, druggy, closeted mess.

Kevin is a shameless grifting gold digging hussy.

God give me the strength to NOT appear to be a pathetic old Queen when I become a pathetic old Queen

R14. That is the absurdity of many modern fashion designers. You wouldn’t be caught dead looking like them.

He's 80. WTH do you expect him to look like? Plus I assume he was ravaged by hiv but stayed alive to tritherapy. Which wasn't a picnic either when it first started.

And if it wasn't HIV and its early treatments, at one point he was on something that permanently ate his flesh. For example meth.

Father Time is a cruel bitch! And I agreed with the poster who said Calvin should not be wearing jeans.

R20. He could be well dressed.

R16: Yup. We can thank Calvin for helping end the reign of the beautiful supermodels by relentlessly promoting Kate Moss and the skinny waif trend.

He complained in some ‘90s clip shown on Youtube about the excessive fees supermodels were demanding, yet he made huge profits using them. He screwed over Christy Turlington by giving her an “exclusive“ contract that didn’t allow her to work for other designers, which limited her potential income and stalled her career. She talked about this in “Model: The Ugly Business Of Beautiful Women.”

Is Kevin’s twin brother, Joel, with anyone? Is he also some rich old man’s boytoy?

“You want to know what comes in between me and my Calvins?"

By the looks of it, Calvin, flesh and muscle would be a good guess 🙄

Calvin looks looks like he's packing it!

There's a million reasons I'm gagging to be teabagged by that hot great-grandaddy scrotum!

^ More like 700 million reasons 🤑

Nothing cums between me and my Calvin

[quote] He screwed over Christy Turlington by giving her an “exclusive“ contract that didn’t allow her to work for other designers, which limited her potential income and stalled her career.

she (and her agent) could have said no.

R30: Christy in Interview Magazine:

[italic]I signed an exclusive contract with Calvin Klein in 1988[/italic] (she was19)[italic], and there were some pros and cons to that. I didn’t feel that I was given the best advice at the time from my agency and I didn’t have my own lawyer. I was young and wasn’t ready to be locked up. I made the most of the time, but I missed the pace I was just starting to enjoy.[/italic]

She learned from that experience and later renegotiated a much better contract when she became the face for CK’s Eternity fragrance.

It’s telling that actors have a union to protect their interests, but models don’t and have never had one at any time.

I came to read bitchy remarks. I am not disappoint.

[quote]The Calvin Klein Inc. founder rocked his grey hair in a spiky updo, with the help of gel... [Daily Mail]

I assume CK has difficult, sticky-uppy thin hair. There's little other reason to explain why, for years and years, he's sported that just-hatched-baby-chick look. Or maybe he wants the extra inch of height. In either case, it's unfortunate.

R12 to be fair, 81 years old Vicar looks better than 79 years old Calvin

Isn't the vicar dead and the husband moved on after collecting his inheritance?

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R36 lol the tabloid tried hard to portray him a gold digger but in all seriousness, he sounds like a reasonable guy, the hubby was not rich, maybe it's money maybe it's love, but he fulfilled his duty in the marriage, it's time to move on, I don't see the problem.

Escorts. The twins. Users and users.

[quote]Marin revealed he will get a £100,000 house, £150,000 life insurance, and £2,000-a-month-for-life pension

r37 You might not consider it significant by your standards, but I assure you that sort of money is life changing for a Romanian gigolo with no education.

Sounds pretty damned significant to me. No more work.

R39 still I don't see an issue here, they were legally married, he deserved all the money he can get, he is not cheating the court . Now back to Calvin, will his young partner receive some "significant" money? Maybe there will be some money left for him, or maybe not, Calvin could leave him nothing in all possibilities.

How did Calvin and Kevin meet?

Calvin looks like maybe he hasn't taken the best care of himself over the years.

@r42, Calvin opened his wallet and BAM, there Kevin was 😉

[quote] longtime boyfriend Kevin Baker

How longtime could it be? Seems like only a few years ago he was joined at the hip to extensively remodeled porn star Nicholas Gruber.

What trousers should he wear? Loose linen? Might look like a death pyre wrapping or mummy. He is totally nondescript.

R12 ew he doesn't even pretend. I feel sorry for the old man.

We're all going to get old and die if we live long enough, that's life. :-)

Calvin Klein, 79?????

Sorry, that's a very rough 79, I would have guessed 109.

How does one get on this type of sugar baby circuit?

"Widow Florin Marin - who is 54 years younger than his husband - said he was upset after Mr Clements passed away but that two days of mourning 'is enough' and that his late husband would not want him to be sad."

This made me laugh myself sick.

Please tell me CK didn’t have Kevin get matching jaw work done a la Liberace. Their squared off chin & jawline look way too similar.

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The title of this thread should have been: Would you fuck that for 700 million dollars?

I know at least half of you on the DL would. Come on, not talking a measly 1 million here. Think about it, 700 million dollars. And no, not a one time close your eyes fuck. You have to wake up in bed every day for the next few years until one day the only thing that seems different is that his eyes are still open.

The poor vicar .. Florin who’s a 1 on his best day, hit the jackpot.

HISSSSS

Ssssssomeone even older than (most of) usssss

Ssssleeping with a Hot Young Thing

HISSSSSSSSS

Paying. Paying for a hot, young, thang. CK is getting his moneys worth. The vicar was robbed.

Hard for me to think they actual have sex…..together…..

CK got the face he deserved.

80 is pretty damn old. You ain’t gonna look like a spring chicken.

I more or less agree, R57. I don't know how much CK is paying, so can't say how much of a bargain he's getting but there's no doubt that his whore is worth at least *something*. Same certainly can't be said for the Late Rev. Clements' whore.

It's getting so I can't tell Calvin Klein and Joan Van Ark apart.

"Calvin, do you present hole?"

"Depends."

Hang in there, kid!

R45 Another crypt dwelling eldergay frozen in time. The Dangerous Liaison was 2010.

Does 12 years = "a few years ago"?

[quote] Does 12 years = "a few years ago"?

If ever something deserved a "you must be new here" R65....

They have so much in common. They both love soup, they love talking and they love not talking.

R65 is another rigid literalist oblivious to hyperbole. Also sadly typically of DL.

Lucky guy

No so bad looking. I would take this guy’s place in a New York minute. I would love to have a world-wise mentor and lover of such experience and sophistication.

Calvin Kline is not my style but dating him would be much better than these scrubs on Grindr.

I doubt the dentures are what you're smelling. I would suggest its something far more decayed. Yikes-- Calvin.

I don't know anything about fashion, so dumb question: what's wrong with old people wearing jeans (per the earlier comments)?

Thank you, R13. More power to CK and to Kevin Baker, if they make it work.

There are plenty of couples with age differences between them who do.

For me, I don't think I'd want to date a guy who is 34. I'm 59. 45 would be my cut off age.

Sorry but that is a very very hard 79. He looks more like 99.

R67 -- that's one of my favorite lines in all of comedy. "We both love soup."

[quote]

One of the tenets of the Maiden Aunt Brigade is that upon turning 40, men must wear chaste formless clothing and appear dressed up as if for business when they are out and about during the day.

No jeans.

No shorts

No t-shirts

Gentlemen of taste and good breeding should look like gentlemen. We favor a jaunty chapeau for the mature gent too, but have given up on making that a requirement for our membes

CK = Crypt Keeper But at least he has companionship, he can afford it, more power to him.

Florin looks like a Gypsy.

R72: More than a few fashion designers have a personal uniform of jeans and a T-shirt: Ralph Lauren, Michael Kors, Calvin Klein in recent decades... Not to say they don't vary the look with a jacket or a sweater or a pair of black pants, or a plaid flannel for Lauren, or the occasional suit, but they have an everyday look, a uniform.

Michael Kors offers his explanation (link), but I think it's simply that a lot of designers want 1.) to have a recognizable, practical look and 2.) to not compete with themselves. Designers seem to prefer to leave it to the professionals to make their clothes look good - the models, photographers, art directors, etc. Wearing jeans and a T-shirt or a simple personal uniform spares them the repetition of tiresome questions: Is that part of your new collection? What was the inspiration for...? A bare bones simple everyday look turns the attention away from what they are wearing; they don't always have to look great and unwrinkled and worry that a bit of what looks like toilet paper is stuck on a left shoe. Jeans are a sort of anti-brand, a ubiquitous (though now less so) everyman look that lets them get on with their work and step out for a pack of cigarettes without having to do anything more than throw on some jeans or simple pants and a T-shirt.

[quote] No jeans. No shorts. No t-shirts.

And NO FLIP FLOPS!

What is he wearing under his shirt? Outboard pacemakers? Exoskeleton? He looks like a condom filled with walnuts,

All those praising Calvin, that vicar and Ronnie Wood for knowing what they've signed up for, it is still the most soulless arrangement on earth. You'll find more humanity in an abattoir. That person you've married or intend to spend the last years/decades of your life with is only doing it for the cheque. I'd prefer die alone. Those young partners/spouses might have hit paydirt but at the cost of any dignity or integrity. I'm guessing the young ones openly tell their own peers and closest mates they're only in it for the money. Ronnie Woods' wife in that photo looks like her blood has run cold as she clutches tight to a purse- how ironic.

At least Anna Nicole made some physical contact with her fella. No one could fake it like her.

Never seen a pic of old Karl smooching Baptiste. They saved that for the boudoir! Baptiste's firm tanned thighs between Karl's wizened legs. An air of urgency from Baptiste to get the job done until the unmistakable sound of an arthritic hip cracking. 🤮

I think the jeans are fine. The Gap pocket t-shirt is not.

OP- I don’t know if I can smell the dentures from here but I can certainly smell the EMBALMING fluid.

My old boss was Calvin’s hairdresser in the aughts and he’d come in every 13 days for a cut. He was rough back then but still handsome. He was dating a trainer that was much more gorgeous then either current or the previous porn star. I met him and he was the sweetest guy The trainer killed himself in a drug haze- jumping out a high rise window. It was bad.

Calvin was a great conversationalist. My funny story is that one time my boss was supposed to be back by 6:30 for Calvin’s appointment and never showed up. I had hired my friend Steven that morning and said, “I know it’s your first day, but you’re going to cut Calvin’s hair.” As a hairdresser myself, I didn’t do it because if my boss showed up he would’ve fired me and I only just got the job after looking for months after 9/11.

Steven is likable like a dark but funny Disney character and can be taken the wrong way sometimes. They went in the back room and it got quiet and I was so worried until I heard Calvin burst out laughing and knew everything would be OK. Calvin paid up and left.

Then I gathered the entire staff together and told all of them none of this happened and not to tell my boss. After about six weeks My boss had a problem and messed up Calvin’s cut once when a guard fell off and had to do a skin fade on both sides to cover the mistake. The cut looked so bad it got a mention in the papers when Calvin went to a basketball game…

Calvin would come back and see my boss, but then Stephen would “fix” it Mondays when my boss wasn’t there. After awhile Steven would go to Calvin’s home and cut it there instead.

Once when he was doing a lot of traveling, when he mentioned to Calvin he wouldn’t mind if he went back to my boss, Calvin promptly said,

“I wouldn’t let him mow my lawn!”

For 80, CK looks fine, IMO. Still has lots of hair (not dyed). Weird that he has a shirt under his shirt; I'm guessing he's trying to hide his neck area without getting ridiculous like Karl Lagerfeld.

The jeans look fine, IMO. Yes, he's skin and bones. At that age, it's hard to build muscle mass. If he did gain weight, it would go to his stomach.

Not sure what kinds of health issues he has had.

Current BF looks like a better choice than previous BF, who ended up in court for allegedly beating a man with a frying pan.

At his age, he should be wearing suits and other tailored things. Dressed like that, he just looks silly.

R36- His boy toy was not even attractive.

Calvin looks 39 in vampire years.

As granny used to say about her cousin in his late 60s who had affair with much younger woman (he was her boss), with contempt: " He can’t do anything, just a bit of touching maybe."

[quote] At his age, he should be wearing suits and other tailored things.

In the DM photos at OP, it looks like CK & BF are just walking down the street, going to Starbucks or the rich-people equivalent. I wouldn't expect to see a suit and tailored clothing.

All the gay fashion-empire zillionaires have had very attractive regular kept boys: CK, Lagerfeld, Marc Jacobs, Halston, YSL....

Has Tom Ford kept anyone in the same way? I know he was with his late husband for years, but I assume when the husband was dying he kept someone too, since they all do. And he must certainly do it now.

Also, what about the non-fashion gay zillionaires, like Barry Diller and Tim Cook and Peter Thiel? I know David Geffen used to (he kept both Steve Anton and--more briefly--Joey Stefano), but I haven't heard of him doing so since the 1980s.

[quote]At his age, he should be wearing suits and other tailored things. Dressed like that, he just looks silly.

This is the worst fashion advice repeated on the internet ad nauseam. In California where the pic was taken, no one wears suites to casual outdoor sidewalk cafes. He would have stood out like a pretentious sore thumb. It was 80 degrees a week ago. I am not saying what he was wearing looked great but this who idea that ever old man should cover in the most formal cloths possible like he lives in the cold north east, even in the most casual setting, is bad fashion advice and myopic.

Half the world is in warm climate zones, hot weather is never a great mix for suits even if they are light ones. Plus some cultures do not dress formally at all. California is one of them. Go to an upscale restaurant there and you will still be hard pressed to find someone in a full suit and tie. Jacket maybe, not not a suite.

He should at least wear a shirt with a collar. He doesn't even have to tuck it in. And a pair of nice loafers.

R95, Karl Lagerfeld looks a whole lot better at R84 than Calvin Klein in OP's link despite some of the over-the-top details like the ruffles on his shirt, the very high collar and the gloves. Part of it is that Lagerfeld isn't so thin like Calvin and I assume he's taken better care of himself. I wouldn't be surprised if Calvin smoked most of his adult life and used recreational drugs.

[quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Calvin smoked most of his adult life and used recreational drugs.

So many DL-ers always ready to mount their judgment thrones and pronounce that if someone is 80 and doesn't look 55, it's clearly that person's FAULT for having engaged in BAD HABITS. Some people age better than others, despite what the pearl clutchers here may think. Genetics often plays a big role.

This is how an elderly gentleman of means should dress casually 🙄

[quote]And a pair of nice loafers

Loafers are out of style Gramps. The 80's are long gone. These days men are even wearing dress tennis shoes with suites.

R99 Anything Trump wears looks like shit dumb ass.

[quote]These days men are even wearing dress tennis shoes with suites.

Those tennis shoes must be HUGE.

Are you saying men should wear suits on a golf course?

@r101, Ooh, someone didn't get the sarcasm gene 😂

Exactly the point, R100. Calvin Klein should not be chasing the current fashions now that his glaring dentures, encroaching liver spots, and multiplying wattles are at war with any statement "dress tennis shoes" might try to make.

Calvin Klein is a world famous fashion designer, I think he has the license to fallow current trends. Dressing like an old man would be counter intuitive of what we expect from someone who is famous for creating fashion trends.

Um, R98, Calvin Klein is part of the generation when smoking was popular and considered cool. Other people on this thread are suggesting he tried drugs.

Trump's outfit on the golf course looks dorky but he still looks better than Calvin with his drooping chest and potbelly, even though Trump is pretty chubby.

^ Nobody wants to look like an old fat Republican except old fat Republicans

Yeah, Trump is a real dreamboat, R107.

He looks like 2 tons of shit, but at least he looks better than Calvin Klein!

R106, you'd think Klein would have enough self awareness to know what looks good on him. He could probably find fashionable clothes that suit someone his age and body type. He should wear shapewear under his shirt 😆.

I blame Bob Hope for that whole "master race at play" look

There's no fool like an old fool.

Klein, bless his heart, looks like the crypt keeper unearthed for brunch. But the youngish boyfriend looks fairly doughy for that high-end job position. To all their own. As longs as both are getting what they want (or at least signed up for) and no one is playing underhandedly with the other.

Has no one else on this thread read "Obsession: the Lives and Times of Calvin Klein" by Steven Gaines? I'm pretty surprised.

In it, Gaines makes clear that Klein has not just "tried" drugs but that he regularly abused drugs and alcohol and became dependent on them.

He is 79, but with all the cosmetic and surgical procedures I’d expect him to look better. He looks unhealthy as much as anything.

R114, Calvin’s problems with substance abuse have been pretty well an open book for decades- by his own admission.

He looks like a walking cadaver. JFC can you imagine hitting that? Not enough money in the world.

Martha has a message for Calvin . . .

Good for them. It’s been a few years now and Kevin has stuck with him. I appreciate the hustle.

Hey Calvin, how was the soup?

Kind of sad how Kenny is walking as if he doesn't even know Calvin is there. Kenny conveniently has one hand in his pocket and has a bottle of water in the other -- sorry, no hand holding and help navigating the curb at the crosswalk.

You can see the thought bubble over Kenny's head.... HURRY UP AND DIE ALREADY!

[quote]He looks like a condom filled with walnuts

Playing the long con as a gold digger is SO risky. The person can easily live years after you anticipated and you can get stuck with the cadaver or get replaced by a younger digger.

[quote]Has no one else on this thread read "Obsession: the Lives and Times of Calvin Klein" by Steven Gaines? I'm pretty surprised. In it, Gaines makes clear that Klein has not just "tried" drugs but that he regularly abused drugs and alcohol and became dependent on them.

There you go, R98. No wonder Klein looks like crap.

[quote]Calvin Klein is part of the generation when smoking was popular and considered cool.

Smoking is still fairly common in fashionable circles.

[quote] one can smell the dentures from here......

20% of the population wear fake teeth, OP.

There are more denture-wearers than homosexuals.

I wonder if guys who date these filthy rich but extremely old men still have to sleep with them. I don't know anyone personally who would go that old. Like how. I've never used viagra. I don't think it's possible for me to get erection even using that. Like maybe they just want companionship.

Dentures smell?

[quote] Calvin Klein

I thought his real name was Calvin Lipschitz.

Only poors have dentures now. Everybody else has implants.

Ralph Lauren's real name is Ralph Lifshitz. Calvin Klein's real name is Calvin Klein. Both poor Jews from the Bronx.

[quote] Hard for me to think they actual have sex…..together…..

At that age, sex should mean nothing more than gender.

You can't always have implants. Many olds get bone loss in the jaw.

^ You're right, Martha.

It's educative to compare the current pictures in the OP's article with the pictures with his previous toyboy from 11 years ago.

Calvin Klein is a total prick asshole…there’s nothing even remotely nice about him. He fucked over his first business partner after the old man taught him everything he knows. Read his bio and see if you still think he’s nice.

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Dick Van Dyke is 96, the same age as Angela Lansbury.

Poor thing probably has to change Calvin's diapers too.

He's earning every dollar!!

[quote]Poor thing probably has to change Calvin's diapers too. He's earning every dollar!!

You'd better believe it.

I can't remember the documentary (about Halston, I think), but there was just a couple of seconds of film of an early 1980s Klein bench pressing with his shirt off and he looked GOOD. It may have been the part of the story where Halston begins losing his grip and Klein is shown as one of the up-and-coming designers.

*were just a couple of seconds.

^ The early 1980s were half a lifetime away.

Too bad Calvin sold his business in the early aughts. He could have made a killing on designer colostomy bags.

[quote] a killing on designer colostomy bags.

And designer dentures and designer Titanium Hips.

[quote]The early 1980s were half a lifetime away.

Duh.

[quote]you'd think Klein would have enough self awareness to know what looks good on him.

He does, that would be his string of boy toys.

[quote]He looks like a walking cadaver. JFC can you imagine hitting that? Not enough money in the world.

How about 700 million? That's his estimated net worth. Want to rethink your answer?

R148, No.

@r148, Hi, Kevin, no one's judging... Really 🙄

Klein is not going to leave his entire fortune to his current boytoy, R148.

^ Yeah, he gets one million plus cab fare

Are you his personal attorney R151? How do you know what is in his will? Sometimes old koots like that are so happy for someone young and attractive to provide them companionship in the last days of their life they are fine with the expected trade off. Not like they can take it with them. Remember Anna Nicole Smith married an 89 year old billionaire? He left his entire fortune to her. She ODed before the lawsuits though so never got it.

No, he didn't, R153. Anna Nicole Smith said he had verbally promised her half of his estate. She wasn't even in the billionaire's will. I'm sure her claim of a verbal promise would hold a lot of weight in court 😆. In 2011, Smith's estate tried to get $44 million for her daughter and that claim was rejected in 2014.

Klein is a lot more wealthy and probably a lot less naive than the vicar upthread. He has a habit of keeping a boytoy and then getting rid of him when he gets bored, or if the boytoy becomes too much of a problem because of drug issues. I don't think any of these boytoys are good enough actors to pretend convincingly that they love Klein and only want what's best for him and don't care about the money. Maybe if he was near the end of his life and his mind might wasn't as sharp as before, he might change his will but then his ex-wives and daughter would challenge it after his death.

Looks like the typical DLer and his fantasy...but with more money, obviously.

I doubt Kline wants to leave his money to his ex-wife. Daughter maybe. Totally plausible that he might leave a good chunk of it to his twink of the month. Like I said, cant take it with him. People are complicated, just because there is an understanding that the young man is in it for the money does not mean Klein is surprised or upset by it.

[quote]Looks like the typical DLer and his fantasy

Oh Please, this is every straight women's fantasy. My boss who is 62 talks about this openly. She wants to fine a very rich man in his 80's with no kids who she will marry and 2 years later hopefully kicks the bucket and leavers her all his money. Not uncommon. She figures there would be very little sex required at that age, maybe a hand job she said.

Most straight women are gold diggers at heart.

R157 your boss is delusional. If there exists a single, rich 80-something year old man with no heirs, he's not going to settle for a 62 year old.

Which substances was he into?

I wish a magazine would do an investigative story on the Lagerfeld fortune and who got what.

Vanity Fair (Spain) did an interview with the bodyguard-chauffeur-minder, but at that stage things were still going through the lawyers, but it was expected he would be taken care of

^ Agreed! It must have been $200m+.

The book by Lagerfeld's minder.

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Baptiste hit the wall big time.

Another interesting article.

The ultimate toy boy

He must have been something because look wise, Jacques de Bascher was a 7 at best.

[quote]Baptiste Giabiconi fights off rumors him and Karl Lagerfeld had sex

O, caro!

R164 Baptiste is on French TV regularly and looks very handsome. He's not a twink anymore.

de Bascher was cute enough, young, and an a great bobo (bourgeois-bohème) dandy and muse. That was his value, lost on Flyoverstan Americans, apparently.

^. I was only talking about his looks.

Boyfriend, is he ex-whore like me?

"How do you know what is in his will? Sometimes old koots like that are so happy for someone young and attractive to provide them companionship in the last days of their life they are fine with the expected trade off."

There is no way a New York born and bred Jew is going to leave his entire fortune to some whore in 2022. There are so many trusts and estate lawyers and real estate lawyers involved. Oh I am not saying the man will get nothing, but believe me, his daughter and ex-wives are cognizant of every million and have A+ lawyers themselves.

Bumfuckystan I get it. But have you ever considered that the only people with universally agreed upon good looks are the "10"s. And they are rare. Everyone else including the 9s and the 8s have other selling points. I think from "7" up, a young person can "work up" extreme attractiveness and desirability. As for gays, add one: MONEY, TALENT, or HUGE DICK - and maybe it goes down to "6".

Kelly has zero claim to it. Marci Klein did very well for herself professionally. And she has the claim.

Klein's boyfriend has a twin brother.

R176 - Do they take turns with Klein when the other is just too repulsed?

There's a couple of books about Bascher. He was from minor nobility, untitled, and like many self-inventors, stuck another aristocrat surname on to his Beaumarchais. He joined the navy simply to mix with the rank and file with obvious Genet fantasties of seducing ordinary sailors. Here's some quotes from the book: "His philosophy as a young man lies in this natural assurance that makes him see life as a game to be won. The world turns in his direction, and if not...for him, "losing is not a problem, if it's done with style". He took up with a straight sailor, saying to him: "If you want to live, follow me." How about that for self-assurance!

He honed himself into someone who, with every gesture, drew attention to himself: seductive by sheer style. The book quotes a letter to him from his brother: "I believe you need to get rid of the habit or attitude of relying too much on others, and in fact of using them. This attitude pushes you to develop your gifts of "seducer" to the detriment of other gifts that you have." So obviously a great courtesan.

It's a real art. Of more gently ruthless types: I met a handsome young guy who'd been kept by a billionaire. I was absolutely staggered at the speed at which he made associations and identified and knew the richest gay men. He was like those third world queens who hit the first world and Russian whores who make the rest of us seem like we're sleep walking, and go like heat seeking missiles to their targets, and absolutely keep their eye on the prize at all times. I know one whose lover has paid for a complete body makeover on him, from head to toes. Liposuction, new teeth, facial surgery, the fucking lot, and now he's swanning in Society as an Influencer! I don't why the lover just didn't get someone handsome in the first place instead of this ghasty grifter.

^ That's quite an attitude for someone who lost the game of life at 38 from AIDS 🙄

Yeah, but he LIVED. Have you? Or have you just existed?

^ I don't think my life experiences sexual or otherwise were any less than his, they just didn't happen with famous people and I've lived to tell my own story

I recently read about J de B in Karl No Regret where the author writes about seeing him completely naked, in chains in an early Paris morning after some BDSM session.

[quote]I've lived to tell my own story

Good for you, Pet.

But we doubt you ever set anyone's imagination alight. Certainly to the extent that biographies will be commissioned.

^ Sure beats the hell out of the life of an overweight British Frau troll

So wealthy people can buy the “affection” or devotion of younger people. Financial security is a pretty powerful need. And there are many variations of it. Often it’s simply a close friendship. I’m wealthy, not nearly Calvin’s category and I have younger friends. So I think about who will look after me if I make it to very old age? My nieces and nephews, not likely. If I develop a close bond and it probably will not be sexual and that person helps me in old age- you bet I will return the “favor”- give them some security. No matter how much money you have, you need someone to be your advocate and loyal friend- children often fill that need, but what if you don’t have them.

One of my best friends (age 75) is surrounded by a small group of much younger close friends and wider network. My friends wealth and life is devoted to philanthropy. He mentors and carefully supports his younger friends, much like a parent. I think he’s a role model for a very wealthy older gay man.

"Yeah, but he LIVED. Have you?"

" author writes about seeing him completely naked, in chains in an early Paris morning after some BDSM session. "

Oh, gosh, I've missed out on so much 🙄 😂

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I'm pretty sure ole Cal pulls his dentures out once in a while to blow Kevin. That's part of the prenup.

CK has always been slim and has a full head of hair, so he wouldn't look so bad had he not been a chain smoker most of his life. That is what has him looking like the Crypt Keeper. it really fucks up your skin.

CK was once kinda cute.

^ Doesn’t look like Kelly Rector (Klein).

People looked different in 1960

R191, it's him. Cigarettes destroyed his looks.

[quote]Smoking is still fairly common in unfashionable circles.

FIFY

[quote] Yeah, but he LIVED. Have you? Or have you just existed?

Oh Auntie Mame, who knew you posted here?

r194 you're wrong

r191. I was talking about his soon to be wife, Kelly. Doesn’t look like her.

You wrote it clearly R190. R192 and R193 lack reading skills.

With regards to Karl, I wonder how Choupette is doing these days.

R198 actually you lack the reading skills. All those posts are not different people. Your attempted sarcasm makes you look stupid and offers nothing to the conversation. You coulda saved that one. It's not landing the way you thought it would.

Personally, I doubt CK has put his current BF into his will.

Just because someone has $700 million doesn't mean they're going to give you some of it.

The BF is probably along for the ride: travel, living in different residences, gifts, lifestyle (staff does everything), clothes, etc.

There are multi-millionaire homebodies, but CK seems to enjoy his money and his life. So, the BF is along for that ride.

R200 so defensive. Get glasses or learn to read. Or both.

R95- I'm in Hollywood AND I wear a full suite!

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120 years ago no one gave a thought to some rich old toad keeping a mistress (or lover) .Everyone involved knows the deal . BF better stack some dollars though,you never know when he might be replaced. Im sorry,but I cant imagine being drunk enough to touch that skeleton with skin. Im an old toad myself but hes scary .

Anyone who thinks this guy is getting $700M from CK's estate is delusional, that is not how the very rich operate. You'll recall that George Michael left that lunatic Fadi Fawaz nothing, nor did he include Kenny Goss in his will even after a 13 year relationship.

R202 Find a hobby. Comedy aint it!

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R206 You are absolutely right. The Uber Rich have a whole host of people who help them with estate planning, decades before they croak. I am sure he is generous during his lifetime, but the fuckboys he is with during his last years won't get shit after he is gone. Once they start to age and after some old guy has been whoring them for years, no other rich guy is gonna want them. They better save and invest wisely because the party will be OVER!

Exhibit A, Marc Christian (Rock Hudson's playmate). Rock didn't leave him shit. He had to sue to get paid.

[quote] Yeah, but he LIVED. Have you? Or have you just existed?

By being obsessed with fashion, appearances, money, drugs, alcohol, and rent boys? If that's your idea of having a LIFE, I choose mere existence.

[quote]Once they start to age and after some old guy has been whoring them for years, no other rich guy is gonna want them.

That's an interesting theory.

Is the money that important to Kevin? Where’s the self respect?

Undead!

Just think. Somewhere, in someone's attic is a portrait of a young, handsome Calvin with a dagger in it.

[quote] one can smell the dentures

Dentures don't smell.

CK boitoi is more than cute, he is strikingly attractive with model looks.

It’s nick-picky but bf’s has gotten flabby - he better watch out!

[quote]Sorry but that is a very very hard 79. He looks more like 99.

Of course someone said this.

What’s the news on Nick Gruber? Does he still live in NYC? Who has had him?

Covid 15 lbs, not a deal breaker

In the Shaun Considine book, he wrote that Calvin's first wife used to taunt him by showing him Polaroids of her new fireman boyfriend's big cock.

R221, Steven Gaines, not Shaun Considine.

[quote] Covid 15 lbs, not a deal breaker

Completely agree.

[quote]Is the money that important to Kevin? Where’s the self respect?

What's an ounce of self-respect worth in today's market?

Get that ice or else no dice!

I haven't read all the comments so forgive me if I'm repeating something but......Calvin's jeans aren't the problem. It's that clingy long-sleeved tee in that ghostly grey color. And combined with the grey jeans (just the color, not the cut). All that grey is just so depressing and aging and ghostly; and a man of 79, no matter how fit, needs a crisp proper collar around his scrawny, wrinkly, coarse-skinned neck to frame his face and give his jaw line some visual support. If Calvin was wearing a deep blue button-down untucked shirt, he wouldn't look too bad for his age.

Oh, and maybe ditch all the spiky hair gel.

Ck needs the fifteen pounds of weight his boyfriend added during the quarantine. He is sickly thin.

Trouble is, r227, when you're 79 years old, or even 39 years old, the added weight goes directly around your waistline and stays there.

Because, R228, Father Time stops for no one. Or maybe a lucky few. Calvin isn't one of those few though. You have to start with a pretty small waist to handle weight gain when older, especially for men, who tend to gain in the midsection regardless of age.

My waist has gotten depressingly bigger since covid - I just up the size and most (🙄) can’t tell.

Trust us, we can tell, R230.

We knew a sister who was corn-holed by Calvin in the 1970s.

She said Calvin had sizemeat and "knew how to use it"!

R226 writes with aesthetics and authority.

[quote]your boss is delusional. If there exists a single, rich 80-something year old man with no heirs, he's not going to settle for a 62 year old.

In fairness, my boss is very pretty for her age, almost like an older fashion model, queens fawning over her perfect skin and hair style, fashion sense every time I have been with her when she goes shopping. She looks fantastic in photos. Only problem is, she's bat shit crazy.

Calvin is probably the first fat whore on the DL that actually needs to put on a little weight.

“Boyfriend“?? I thought he was MARRIED???

He finally found eternal happiness with some younger female employee named Kelly.

My best mate's dad had a sixty year-old girlfriend when he was eighty. He may have met her in his late seventies. She looked like a model as well, and in her late forties. She had a figure most younger women would envy, and she looked great in tight jeans... always with a Barry Kieselstein-Cord belt, and sexy heels. She lasted a few years, but when the going became rough, he went to a care home. I think she expected him to eventually marry her. He had been a widower without dates for decades before he met her.

She visited, but when he died, he didn't leave her anything. She had been previously married, with children. We all loved her. I don't believe she was in it just for the money. I think she did enjoy the lifestyle benefits however, as mentioned above. Surprisingly, she died only eighteen months after him.

There are no guarantees in this life, even if you have wealth. We cannot expect loved ones to look after us. whether they be sons or lovers. It's nice that Calvin isn't alone.

That's what my mate's sisters always said when someone made mention of their Dad's "young" girlfriend,

It's not nice when a notorious asshole like Calvin isn't alone. It's nice when nice people aren't alone.

Why was Calvin married to s fish?!?!??!

It's different when your average Joe is not alone vs an ultra wealthy ass hole most of his like Kalvin is alone.

Selfish, lying, have my cake and eat it too bisexual shit bag. His outside matches his inside; hideous monster.

I ran R240 through Google Translate but still couldn't make sense of it.

^ He means it's nice when an average guy finds companionship, but rich assholes can buy companionship if they need it

Gold diggers know they have to wait for that sweet spot when sugar daddy is close to dying, but still lucid enough to sign his last will, favoring the boy toy, in the presence of a witness who is beyond approach.

At the end of the day, no lawyer can go against his client's wishes.

It happened to an old friend of mine. Fairly rich (several properties), wife and children turned their backs on him when he came out. But he still wanted his kids to get his wealth. Then boy toy came along and was all sweet, supportive, and hot. Friend got sick (no foul play, the kids looked into that) and was about to die and boy toy made him change his will pointing out that none of the kids were around even now that he's dying. Boy toy got most, while the kids got the exact legal amount, so they couldn't sue.

Betting on these rich sugar daddies is a mixed bag. Some will leave it all to the twink if he is there at the end when family usually flakes. Other times it's just BS lip service and the twink gets a wake-up call they have been had, got nothing in writing, just verbal promises. Maybe some trinkets while they were alive. Almost like a fuck you on the way out I know you don't really care so neither do I.

He looks pretty rough, but he is 80. The fact that he's able to walk around without assistance and is not completely senile is pretty impressive.

Fuck you, R246!

I had a very rich sugar daddy. He owned a triplex penthouse in a world capital. I broke it off when he got too deluded about it and also got stingy, in my opinion. 10 years down the line his delusions as well as his options must have gotten nastier and nastier and his then current boy toy murdered him painfully and awfully.

I’m amused by this article’s title.

We know what she CAN live without!

Who cares about this ex wife stinkfish ^

No one

Except effeminates

The ex wife gained a bit of weight. Catherine Deneuve said it best, when we age we need a small layer of fat to preserve our looks and health.

The smart ones get a house or condo in their name before the old coot dies. And some money.

Liberace's last boyfriend Cary got $250k and 2 cars after 7 years together. For $35 a year, I'd rather work.

[quote] Except effeminates

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Mr. Klein was married twice, to Jayne for 10 years (WITH a daughter!) and then Kelly for 20.

And yet still Teh Gays try to claim him for their own!

^ Huh? We claim him because he's GAY. Gay people are allowed to marry whoever they want, just like you assholes

[quote]Liberace's last boyfriend Cary got $250k and 2 cars after 7 years together.

And AIDS...the gift that kept on giving right to the end.

WHET to Nick Gruber? Did he become heterosexual?

[quote] Oh Please, this is every straight women's fantasy. My boss who is 62 talks about this openly. She wants to fine a very rich man in his 80's with no kids who she will marry and 2 years later hopefully kicks the bucket and leavers her all his money. Not uncommon. She figures there would be very little sex required at that age, maybe a hand job she said.

Oh please, this is every older single straight woman's running gag: "Gotta find me a rich old man with one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave!" Most of them know it ain't ever gonna happen, at least not for them. And no, most of them aren't trying. (Though I do know _one_ woman in her 60s - fat, not very attractive, but very kindly and a great homemaker, who did end up marrying a rich old man and inherited his wealth.)

There are the desperate older women who have no home, no savings, and no hope for their future, who find guys who lets them live with them in exchange for doing all the cooking, cleaning, and of course sex, sweetened with a vague promise to remember them in their wills. The women buy into that simply because they haven't any other options (and of course, they're never remembered in the wills).

[quote]Most straight women are gold diggers at heart.

Nope. Most of them would rather have their own money and live on their own, as shown by the high percentage of divorced and widowed women who have no interest in finding another guy. Why should they, when all they get from it is more cooking, cleaning and caregiving?

Who was it R248? Spill the tea. You are not with him anyways.

[quote]Nope. Most of them would rather have their own money and live on their own, as shown by the high percentage of divorced and widowed women who have no interest in finding another guy. Why should they, when all they get from it is more cooking, cleaning and caregiving?

LMFAO, you left of the rest of that off. Only AFTER they have taken 50% of the guys wealth through divorce. Most never marry again because if they do they will lose their monthly support payments.

Their own money indeed.

Had a sugar daddy briefly. No a,pint of money is worth the sucking up. Just like the people who sacrifice happiness to make money in the corporate world, sugar babies sacrifice their lives to money. Different ways of going about it - but at least when you work fo the money, it’s yours and in your bank. Sugar babies can always be cut off. Even at the end.

Do the math.

34 goes into 79 . . .

This is true love. So powerful and inspiring ❤️❤️

Thirty-four?! I WOULD NEVER.

R248, Monte Carlo, right?

Edmund Safra fucked you R248? Hopefully you got something out of it!

Or was it Edouard Stern?

Some toyboys do really well. According to this book, Lord Beauchamp's last boyfriend was willed all his Australian property, including a Sydney mansion. The previous boyfriend also did well, and ended up living in what is now Bob Geldolf's mansion, although the book doesn't say if he scored anything in the will. I think if sugar daddys are naturally generous, as Beauchamp was, toyboys have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately most rich people do tend to be stingy!

R248 has video of his lonely years with his sugar daddy:

George Cukor put his gay for pay toy boy thru law school during his life then left him a huge chunk of his estate.

Geez, Ellen has really let herself go after retiring last month. Porsha looks good with brown hair.

[quote]Geez, Ellen has really let herself go after retiring last month.

Considering how she looked before she retired, I'm not sure this is something I need to see.

A very nice fairly wealthy tall hung man a couple years younger than ourself wanted to have us move into his mansia and be 'kept' by him in 2000. Alas, we did not care for Burbank and moved to Europe instead.

I had a multiple time Academy Award nominee (more than twice my age) interested in my moving into his place in Beverly Hills after I finished college.

I just thought it would be incredibly awkward, as I wasn’t in love with him. I was more idealistic then.

I wonder how that would have gone. My father would have been horrified, for starters[bold] : o

If you get paid for it when you are younger, you buy it back when you are older. I have actually seen this happen. Kind of sad and pathetic when they realize they are now the troll who is the ugly one. Even worse, they remember how grossed out they were as the twink and they realize that is how they are not looked at by their new paid boy toy. He just wont say it out loud.

"The Calvin Klein Inc. founder rocked his grey hair in a spiky updo, with the help of gel, while his other half had his chestnut tresses combed to the side to achieve a dashing tousled look." You've got to hand it to the Daily Fail captions; they never disappoint.

That's why it's known in the UK not as The Daily Fail, but The Daily Hate.

Édouard Stern was murdered by fish.

Fun fact: The Lady Bunny's aristocratic cousin, "Lady" Colin Campbell, wrote her first novel and Roman à clef about Lily Safra, née Watkins, formerly Cohen, formerly Monteverde, formerly Bendahan. It was scandalous and withdrawn 1 month after its release, the publisher scrambling to destroy all copies.

[quote]r279 Fun fact: The Lady Bunny's aristocratic cousin, "Lady" Colin Campbell…

I’m never sure if this odd “lady” gossip monger was born male, female, intersex… or what?

They’re kind of the Jamie Lee Curtis of Britain in that sense.

Yes - she was born intersex - for real. I believe raised as a boy. A tough old English broad.

So, sorry to pry, but she had both male and female genitalia? Or none at all?

^ Ask her ex-husband who divorced her ten minutes after they married. Seems that two tops can't make a go of it 🤔

Married to a lord for ten minutes = lady for life.

He can cut off his dick or whatever he was born with, but that's a man baby! No lady.

Dear Lord in Heaven!

Lady Colin is fug.

How drunk and stupid was the lord that married that beast?

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MY EYES!!!!! I can't unsee that..

@r289, Guys often make for the best looking girls 😉

R291 Well not in this particular case, as it would appear.

Say what you want, but Calvin Klein is still a hot bitch! His not so young BF should hit the gym.

Yes R283, if the Cryptkeeper is your standard of beauty.

Most likely this pic of Klein and Gruber has been photoshopped to make Klein look better. If not, when did things fall apart?

R282 She was born with fused labia and raised as a boy, which resulted in her being given testosterone at puberty as she had begun to develop as a female. She's been quite open about this.

I always felt there was something off about Gruber. I didn't know he was born with a fused labia? So Calvin is predominantly straight leaning bisexual.

^ R296 was talking about Lady Colin Campbell, not Nick Gruber, Rose.

[quote] R296 was talking about Lady Colin Campbell, not Nick Gruber, Rose.

R297 knows and was making a very funny joke.

^ thanks,😉

This is a Calvin thread, not one about a "woman" with a 6 inch clit and balls.

Calvin is a straight man with a pudgy younger gay assistant. The long clit was discovered behind Nick Gruber's fused labia. That was why Calvin paid to have her teeth fixed. They are still friends.

Fused labia my culo.

Whenever I see "Fused labia " I picture this...

I'm sure the Lord wondered why Colin only wanted it up the pooper. Although with that face, he was happy to oblige.

I'm dying to google "fused labia" but I don't want to see pictures.

She not only had a fused labia, but with her divorce, a refused labia.

Double whammy.

Seems like I opened a can of vestigial penises mentioning the Lady.

Lady Colin Campbell has a very irritating voice.

Thank heavens they didn’t reproduce. Lord Campbell is no prize either…

I doubt they could reproduce. I don't think the Lady's plumbing was in working order

Let’s talk about that for awhile!

^ Oh, lets not 🙄

The “lady” Colin Campbell really is unfortunate looking - like someone repeatedly slammed her face in a car door.

Did she ever go on a date again after the husband dumped her worthless, non functional vadge?

Enough with the chick with the dick please.

That term can also apply to Calvin, r315.

Sooo... DOES she have a dick? Or just those silly fused labia?

I imagine the “lady’s” nether lips were unfused - ie, sliced open.

What they did with the deformed (overgrown?) clit… who knows.

Calvin Klein still has the round, smooth, perky ass of a young man.

R319. Yes, you are correct, Mr. Kissinger.

It's on display at her castle. Only £5 a look.

R270, THANK YOU I’ve never seen the video!

[Quote]they remember how grossed out they were as the twink and they realize that is how they are not looked at by their new paid boy toy.

R276 No they don't. If they got paid to be a sugar baby when they were young, then clearly they are used to dysfunctional relationships. They are not looking for love. These old farts are weak, insecure, narcissistic men. They want that young guy on their arm because it feeds their ego. They don't care how the young guy feels. They don't even think about it. It's the same for straight guys who marry the young bimbo trophy wives.

R258 CK chewed up Nick Gruber and spit him out. The boy fell on hard times after CK dumped him. He ended up a meth addict and a convicted criminal after beating someone up with a frying pan.

^ That’s NG??!! He looks completely different.

Why doesn't Miss G advertise her culo ( her tinymeat being too tiny) for rent on rentmen?

She could be making up to $1000 per day!

Or is she just too lazy to work for a living?

[quote] They don't care how the young guy feels. They don't even think about it. It's the same for straight guys who marry the young bimbo trophy wives.

That's not entirely true. They believe that, because they have money, they can have it all. A lot of them believe that they are being loved by their boy toys and trophy wives. Call it delusion, but these guys truly believe that money can buy you happiness and love. Until they decide that "love" is overrated and they look for a new shiny (fuck) toy or get the delusion bubble popped by catching their boy toy or trophy wife cheating on them (it's ok for sugar daddy to fuck around, but not for boy toy or trophy wife).

Gruber should be in jail. Can’t believe that the judge was so lenient!

R7- no, u do not

R256- the guy is bisexual n can not design for shit

Earns every penny.

Calvin Klein ex TENANT FROM HELL

Sold meth out of rented room. Send to the clink. Sued landlord for lost possessions.

Still looks reasonably good, though.

Not everyone looks like harry callvi!

CK knows what he likes, and has the cash to get it!

I bet calvin orders that soap that’s supposed to get rid old man odor by the truckload!

Apparently, Kevin Baker decided to stop going to the gym and that gaining 20-30 lbs was fine.