“Grotesquerie”- trailer for Ryan Murphy’s new show

You're sorry, OP?

The trailer is more than enough to convince me not to watch this one.

The presence of Travis Kelce is just a bonus reason to skip this.

The priest tho…

I get a shiver in my quiver just thinking about it.

Why would anyone need to see this?

No thank you.

I think Travis Kelce is hot as fuck, however.

Nicholas Chavez is Father Charlie.

Niecy Nash proved herself by stealing every frame of Dahmer and earned her Emmy. I'll watch for her and Nick Chavez of course.

I’m calling it now - the nun did it.

Travis has more gravitas than I was expecting.

He doesn’t have a cute face at all.

With Micaela Diamond as Sister Megan.

I hate it when they make the main star seem unreliable and announce it in the trailer. I don't want to invest time in a show that won't end up surprising me at all.

I'm a big Nicholas Chavez fan, but nothing about this show makes me want to watch it. Not even Chavez playing the priest.

Looks good, actually

This hits every horror cliche in the book. A must to avoid, a time-waster where the goal of each episode is simply to get you to watch next week. At the end of it you will be no more enlightened, delighted or entertained than you would be if you just skipped it.

Can someone just MeToo Murphy and get him cancelled, already?

Looks interesting!

[quote] Can someone just MeToo Murphy and get him cancelled, already?

Jealous, Dear?

^Oh look, a fourteen-year-old girl has weighed in!

I will be seated for Chavez.

[quote] I hate it when they make the main star seem unreliable and announce it in the trailer. I don't want to invest time in a show that won't end up surprising me at all.

Those are my FAVORITE protagonists! The flawed, selfish, despairing, broken mess who can only redeem themselves by finding and stopping a greater evil.

I hate it when they make the main star seem unreliable

Unreliable?

I'm watching it. This looks good.

[quote]I will be seated for Chavez.

He's in a Speedo in "Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story".

Ryan Murphy's participation makes it a hard pass for me, tbh. Something about his work and his tawdry, "provocative", tabloidy exploitation of gay narrative is never as good as he thinks it is.

r26 His stuff always starts out good but he can never tie off an ending. It's like he writes "this will be cool oh and this too" and then realizes he has one episode to tie up 30 storylines. The last Horror Story was such a shit show in the last episode.

Recently rewatched the very first season of AHS and all the Murphy red flags were there already. He's someone who back then would have really benefited from the current trend of six or eight episodes per season because he loses focus when he has to work with more than that.

Ryan Murphy is the Stephen King of tv.

Ryan Murphy gets paid handsomely to make the same two shows over and over.

Kelce is hot as fuck. What is wrong with you people? He's not "cute." He's a handsome man.

Does this show have gay male characters? If not I don't care.

A Ryan Murphy show, R32? Surely. But it'll be mediocre and just another piece of crap off the old RM car wash. I'd rather a show be good than shore up some dude he wants to bang, but alas...

Anybody watch the two-episode premiere? It was pretty good—less manic and more character-driven than American Horror Story gotten.

Bonus: a couple of fairly lingering shots of Nicholas Alexander Chavez’s ass in episode 2.

I don’t understand the Nurse Redd character… or I guess her “look”. She looks out of place. She kind of annoys me, too. Then there’s the 600 Pound Life story arc with the daughter. I’m kind of wondering if Murphy is ripping off Seven. But if we get Goop’s head in a box again, I’m okay with that.

Father Chavez, fuck me for I have sinned…

Agreed it's not a trailer that makes me want to watch even though it's subject matter (hunting a psycho killer) is appealing. Nonetheless, I'll likely tune in for Nash. Ryan Murphy's work almost always follows the same trajectory: strong start, interesting ideas, visually compelling, and then it all falls apart as it meanders meaningless as if the actors are just improvising as they go along. By the end, little of it makes any sense.

[quote]I don’t understand the Nurse Redd character… or I guess her “look”.

I think she's a new version of Nurse Ratched, only more self absorbed.

Looks awesome. Can’t wait.

There’s enough perversity and sadism in the world without me inviting it into my living room. Disgusted am I with America’s fascination with crime. No wonder we’re desensitized to it. I don’t care if some sexy bear is the show’s Rod Serling. What’s next? A wax museum in London celebrating the slaughter of Sharon Tate? So over this CRAP. Can’t we have shows about a county fair? Or how we cleaned up the air? How everybody learned to care? Can’t everybody love everybody in the good old USA?

Do you not subscribe to the Hallmark channel, R40?

R40 Thank you Candance Cameron Bure

Kelce isn’t my type, but he is attractive, & at least has enough good sense to groom & trim his beard correctly.

The beard on his face. Duh!

I LOVE Niecy Nash

I only have 3 people blocked, and r40 is one of them - I can't remember what it posted, since I think I would have only blocked a hardcore MAGAT or racist.

R20 in what world would Ryan Murphy’s fanbase be 13 year old girls?

You sound old-fashioned, r40. Perhaps you should stick to The Bacchae and Titus Andronicus.

Kelce could have my ass anytime.

I don’t find him even slightly attractive. I like faces and he’s meh at best. He also sounds like an idiot.

Ryan Murphy cast an unknown General Hospital actor to co-lead the second season of his highly publicized and popular Monster series and immediately cast him in this show too?

Casting couch, anyone? Is Chavez his new Darren Criss now that Criss has probably aged out of being his go-to fuck for a role?

Thankfully Chavez ass is not as saggy as Galitzine's

What does Chavez have to do with Galitzine? Are they blood related?

R51 your legs and ass are 90% muscle memory. You inherit your ass through genetics. Chavez and Galitzine have no blood relation so what one inherited has nothing to do with the other.

R53 I was just about to point this out. I was confused why that poster would bring up Galitzine as if they have any relation. Does he think we all have the same ass?

Chavez is also Hispanic. They tend to be built a little better than the average WASP.

He is from Houston, Texas but moved to Denver when he was a kid after his parents divorced. He went to Rutgers University in NJ for two years before deciding to drop out of college and moved to LA to pursue his acting career. He ended up having to leave LA and moved in with his father during the pandemic. Afterwards he sent an audition tape for a role in General Hospital and they got back to him and he ended up getting the part. His only other credit is a Tubi movie.

He didn’t even have an agency before recently so I do wonder how he landed a huge role like Lyle Menéndez. Me thinks he used his ASSet we see at r51 to get it.

Oh and he won the Daytime Emmy in 2022 for his work on General Hospital.

R53 Thankfully Chavez ass is not as saggy as..

I like him a lot. He’s not only super attractive but seems like a very humble and intelligent young man and hard working.

I was watching an interview he did and they asked him what it was like being transported back to that era for the show and he said it’s every actors dream to do a period piece at some time and my mouth dropped. It hit me that the 90s are now a fucking period piece! We are getting old.

He was born in 1999 so he wasn’t even alive for any of it.

R59 again, what is the relation? And 13 upvotes to yourself? You really gave yourself that many upvotes in less than 2 minutes and expect people to believe that’s true? I had to screenshot it

[quote]We are getting old.

We're not getting old, we ARE old.

R61 Google is your friend hun.

com·par·i·son /kəmˈperəs(ə)n/ noun 1. a consideration or estimate of the similarities or dissimilarities between two things or people. "they drew a comparison between Chavez ass and that of other actors" Similar: contrast

juxtaposition

collation

differentiation

weighing up

He did it a second time.

R63 comparing what? Strangers asses? Comparing an old mans ass to a 25 year olds? What is the comparison? You were born in 2005 and have zero college under your belt. Don’t come here acting like you’re a bad bitch when most of us know the truth. You have to create accounts to WW yourself too.

[quote]He didn’t even have an agency before recently so I do wonder how he landed a huge role like Lyle Menéndez. Me thinks he used his ASSet we see at [R51] to get it.

Or how about he was a very popular Emmy winning soap star with a following who the producers noticed then asked to audition and got it.

R64 you sound autistic.

R66 no. But you ARE uneducated. Young but spending all your time on here and LPSG and Reddit? WOW.

R67 triggered WOW

Always fun to vist the Home. Thanks for the yucks. Ciao for now Gramps.

R64 one must only ever compare relatives & friends arses?😂

R70 no. But it’s diabolical to compare Chavez to a man more than twice his age and to compare him to an actor he has never worked with and has to relation to in any way. You are comparing apples to steaks, not even oranges.

Every once in a while, an argument flares up here that passes beyond pointless bitchery to utter tedium. Good job, lads.

This reminds me so much of Ratched.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Niecy’s character Lois is in a coma herself. Also, we get it with the 7 deadly sins, Ryan. You don’t have to show us every 2 seconds.

I never sat and watched Chavez on GH but saw moments because my mother watches it. He left the show though but I know his character was in a relationship with a black girl and the show kept putting them up front and center, being a young interracial couple. I know General Hospital fans all say the same thing, when they watched him on the show they knew he wouldn’t be on the show long term because he is a “star”. He has that IT “star” quality and stood out like a sore thumb on GH because he feels like he belongs on primetime and not a daytime soap. You can even see comments like this in the comments section to the video of him winning the Daytime Emmy in 2022.

So it’s not shocking to GH watchers who know who he is that he’s on the rise and the face of a major show right now.

[quote]Disgusted am I with America’s fascination with crime.

Excuse me, but Master Yoda are you?

^ Good Luck with that, kid.

Does that nun have a sinister ulterior motive?

I hate to bump this thread (I apologize Muriel), but I really need someone to discuss this show with.

I’m in, R79. I really liked the first two episodes. Much more character-driven than your usual AHS nonsense, and the whole cast is sensational. (We’ll see about Kelce.)

R80 Do you think this is reality or it’s all a dream? Coma? Purgatory? Hell?

R79 I’m accepting it as reality for now but I love how heightened the murders are. It can’t just be one person…

So Ryan Murphy still has it in him to create good shows (Monsters was very well done and this one looks promising) so then why the hell did he let AHS go to shit?

I guess he does have a habit of losing interest in his shows after few seasons.

R83 - too much stunt casting, for one. No one wanted to see Kim Kartrashian.

[quote] No one wanted to see Kim Kartrashian.

All one needed to do was watch her reality show to see a true American horror story.

The last AHS was just so terribly bad. I mean the last five minutes some dead woman whispers in Emma Roberts ear and Kim rots and dies and she gets her baby undevlied?

That last supper murder scene of homeless people was intense.

Finding it hard to get into the show. It seems like three different shows going with the nun/priest murder mystery, the coma husband and nurse rachet jacking him off and the fat daughter story.

Lmao it’s one story.

r89 yes I know but it feels like there are three different stories going on. I am sure In true Murphy style he will tie them all together on the last episode in 20 minutes but to me it feels disjointed.

There aren’t 3 stories going on.

It's very slooooooooooooooow.

It's not good. I love horror, not the grosteque parts. First episode is very bad.

Disagree. It’s atmospheric and creepy.

She is much better in CLAWS.

And there he is again, making an unnecessary comparison.

CLAWS and this series have nothing in common besides her. That wasn’t a horror.

Whatever happened to Murphy’s A Chorus Line series?

No shit? Damn, you're so clever. And fun at parties, I'll bet.

I'm starting to think Ryan Murphy is just weird.

Or maybe the Aaron Spelling of weird.

I'm not sure which is worse.

Murphy has bizarre ideas. If you watch Nip/Tuck you saw the beginnings. Like giving the jailed son tits so his cell mate won't kill him.

Ryan Murphy is dumber, trashier version of Stephen King at this point. Watchable and diverting, but narratively as a logical as a four year old's "and then" story and as satisfying as one potato chip.

This show is amazing. And NAC is PERFECTION.

R102 he’s gorgeous. That ass is top tier.

I’m loving the series. I found episodes 3 and 4 phenomenal, especially 4. Those final 10-15 minutes on the road were amazing. The final minute with the woman appearing in the heavy dust/smoke made me jump, and then her screaming he’s coming and you can’t see anything because of the heavy dust/smoke made my heart race. Great way to end the episode. Looking forward to next week.

So what's the deal with the evil nurse with the 40s do? Is she real because she never interacts with anyone except Nash's character?

Anyone else have any good ideas who the killer is?

Satan himself.

Freaky priest is too obvious.

Mr. Taylor Swift.

R107 exactly why it isnt him.

It's her husband.

just wrote on the other thread. By episode 3 I realized the great quality of this series is that it is completely transgressive. Amusingly so. The theatrical murders are the least well done part of the series. They are beyond derivative of other serial killer "entertainments". The drinking and the over eating and Catholic shenanigans are wonderful fuck yous. There is some really good use of music and some of the settings are well done trashy and gritty. I really didn't like Nancy at the start but now I like what she's doing and how Murphy is using her.

Last two were boring. Show me some more Chavez meat and call it "Charcuterie".

Any Travis Kelce nudity?

We're hitting that point in the story where one of the earlier players, who is rarely seen now, is the killer.

I suspect that somehow her husband is ultimately behind it.

I loved both episodes. The series is interesting

I love this series! Gurl Niecy and Travis have me glued to the screen. The priest and nun subplot is secondary. I know women just like the daughter highly intelligent but wrapped up in a food addiction. The gore is a little much but that particular producer really keys into the subconscious fears we all have. I think it would be awesome if Taylor Swift did a cameo appearance as an ex girlfriend of Travis' and gets into and old fashioned ghetto beat down with Niecy. You know like that fight on dynasty between Linda Evans and Joan Collins ?

r117 definitely isn’t watching if he claims Travis has him glued to the screen.

The show has gone from. HMM what are they doing to WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? How did they get to the middle of nowhere with a giant firehole in the ground, to the motel from hell with the invulnerable rapist and wife beaters to baby harvesting and women being milked like cows? Like how the hell do all these people disappear an no one reports them? Then to top it off she kills "someone" we are to expect is the killer pulls the mask off and they cut to the credits without showing. And the nurse with the vodka telling her she was in love with her husband and she pulls a gun and says she will kill her but had no issues with her jacking him off while in a coma??

“Then to top it off she kills "someone" we are to expect is the killer pulls the mask off and they cut to the credits without showing.“

I have to ask, how old are you that you don’t know what a cliffhanger ending is? Shows have been doing this since Dallas did it with “Who Shot JR?” over 40 years ago. This is not a new concept. They didn’t show you so you have to tune into the next episode to see who it was. Every show does this.

I liked the nun. I thought Travis did a fine job. The priest was beyond weird and not in a good way. I think I left the priest wearing see thru nightclothes and leathers while he danced in the church. Something like that.

If someone would post how it ends I won’t have to finish it. If not I will bite the bullet someday.

R120 I know what a cliffhanger is, I also know what a cheap stunt is. That was a cheap stunt. Especially how bizarre thee one episode was, we needed at least some payoff. It will not even be the real killer anyway.

Cliffhangers can be considered cheap stunts but they’re cliffhangers. It is what it is. They’ve existed for decades.

I follow people on tiktok who every week post a video about the show and the comments is people discussing it. A lot of different theories.

Didn't Niecey's character use the same thread on the turducken as the killer used on the body parts? I just started watching this today.

I'm starting to wonder if Niecey's character is the killer.

I also just noticed the same thread was used on the priest's back. This is freaky!!

There are many theories. I’ve seen some who think she’s actually in a coma and in purgatory. Others think she is secretly the killer but doesn’t even know it, like a mental disorder. And so on. Many theories.

I get that this thread is mostly a Grotesque stan, but has anyone else gotten through more than one episode? Is it still shit?

On the bright side The Diplomat returns at the end of the month.

It's an acquired taste, R129. What keeps me coming back is trying to figure out what's going on.

I'm thinking that Niecey's husband isn't really in a coma. The nurse has a very 40s-50s hairstyle and that is not what intubation devices look like now. I'm guessing that's her Dad and her daugther is actually her as a young girl. The difference is the daughter has a food addiction and Niecey is an alcholic. I'll be watching episodes 5 and 6 today. I just started watching yesterday.

Every series is an “acquired taste”

I thought that extended suspense sequence at the motel at the beginning of episode 5 was a lot of fun. It appeared to be done in one take, although I’m sure there was some digital trickery.

That motel should have its own series. I couldn't tell what was going on though. Who was shooting at them, etc?

That’s why people think it’s all in her head r134. Tons of theories

R128 - those types of theories make sense. There’s something with the nurse looking and acting like she’s out of the 40s, and the scenes with her are isolated- no one else is in them that I can recall. That nurse also said earlier on something to the effect that people in a coma can hear you talking to them. The murders could be symbolic of something and not actually occurring.

The daughter is also isolated and never leaves the house. She literally only interacts with her mother and eats.

The only other character who interacted with her daughter is Travis Kelce, and he appeared out of nowhere, like an angel.

Maybe her husband is the killer, she found out, and he tried to kill her, leaving her in a coma. The other odd thing is including a nun in your whole investigation. That wouldn’t happen in reality.