MSNBC- Part 62

MSNBC is broadcasting a mashup of the highlights of their Democracy 2024 event last weekend Saturday Sept 14 9PM EDT.

MSNBC Live: Like Comic-Con for News Nerds

I wonder what Claire has under her 'pastry dome' in her kitchen on a Friday night ? Maybe it's a few Entemann's blueberry danish ? '

Did anyone else see the cross-talk between Alex and Ali Velshi tonight? Was Ali expressing a bit of hurt at not being included in the picture with all of his MSNBC colleagues for the Brooklyn live event? He appeared to be, at least for a brief moment, though I couldn't tell if he was being serious or not.

He was probably mildly offended but also enjoyed pointing out the snub. Does the photo include other B team members?

Alex Wagner is growing on me, she should have a better timeslot.

You better check yo man!!!

I wondered that about the Ali/Alex exchange, too.

I'm looking forward to watching the special tonight, curious to see how the MSNBC stars interact with each other away from the TV desks, if they all try and stay close to Rachel.

I think Ali was a little hurt, but he was complaining to the wrong person - Wagner had nothing to do with the photo they're using.

[quote] Alex Wagner is growing on me, she should have a better timeslot.

Is that sarcasm? I just can't tell anymore. She took over the Rachel Maddow time slot.

The audience at the MSNBC Live event appears to trend older than DL

So the audience came en masse from the Nursing Home?

Luke Russert is a horrible host, if they do this again get someone else.

It's interesting seeing everyone's full bodies, not sitting behind a desk. Symone Sanders and Michael Steele actually look much slimmer. Michael must wear a size 16 shoe!

Chris Hayes, no - you really can't pull off a saggy t shirt with a suit.

Sex Gavin Newsom.

Symone is pretty well proportioned, r14.

[quote]The audience at the MSNBC Live event appears to trend older than DL

The cable news audience is even older than that of broadcast networks. MSNBC's median age is 70, Fox News's is 69 and CNN's, 67.

Just started watching the event. Luke Russert looked liked shit. What’s up with that greasy wiglet? Good Gawd people…do better.

Well I guess we now know why Rachel stopped doing the cocktail of the week.

[quote] Luke Russert is a horrible host, if they do this again get someone else.

I think Luke was brought back to MSNBC for the sole purpose of doing these kinds of special events. He is both the host and the "creative director."

Someone like Jacob Soboroff would have been a better host. I know organizing this thing was Luke Russert's big thing but he is not a good host for TV.

Chris Hayes must have a big dick. He's shaped like a pear but his wife is stunning. She reminds me of (young) Charlotte Rampling.

That event sucked. Glad I didn't pay money to see this in person. I'm not sure what I was really expecting, but it wasn't this.

The perfect event to share Ayman's thighs with the entire MSNBC audience and they leave him out. A missed opportunity.

I’m not convinced Chrissy Hayes isn’t a tranny. No Adam’s Apple, and child bearing hips. Yes, “he” has kids, but IVF is still legal.

Symone is the size of a baby hippo. She's lucky she sits behind a table on 'The Weekend'.

Hayes Brown (Stephanie's guest Friday night) is absolutely adorable. So cute and fuckable.

R25 If so, he'd have "tranny"-itioned relatively young.

Love this Kornacki ad! We can see him walking down the street and then walking into his workplace. He sits down in front of his computer and drinks his coffee. Starts preparations. It's one of the three. There are two more on this account.

I thought it was so disappointing, The only worthwhile segment - in terms of information/debate/discussion - was Chris Hayes and Kate Shaw.

The rest was fluff and self promotion. "The Weekend' people? If you blinked you missed them. Lawrence and Rachel? An almost nausea inducing love fest. Ari and Andrew? WTF was that 4 minutes about?

It could have been so much better, and if it was all Luke Russert's idea/fault, he and his weird hair piece should be put out to pasture. Maybe they'll do it again and refine the concept.

And Kate Shaw is not only VERY smart and interesting, but she is gorgeous. Just stunning.

Better luck next time for the show/idea.

Can't disagree with anything you say, r30. It was all too lovey-dovey like one of those con events, no sharp ends.

I wonder if the best parts were shown, the amount of time spent with Rachel attempting and failing to get Lawrence to do a Pirouette were such a waste, MSNBC viewers know who these people are, we didn't really need Luke Russert's lame introductions of them. Steve Kornacki was there, he was mentioned but nothing from him. I was fine with not that much substance from them, I think this was intended to be more a get to know them outside of their TV roles.

I think I liked the give and take between Andrew and Ari the best. Ari seems so clueless how much many people dislike his rap lyrics quotes, Andrew clued him in.

Apparently Fox has been doing these meet and greet events for years, it was just an attempt to do what they do. If they do it again I doubt it will sell out at those prices but then I don't live in NYC and don't care to meet any of them.

There was one other interesting thing about it - to me, anyway - the segment with Psaki, McCaskill, and Mitchell was also fluff - but Andrea Mitchell looked and acted so much more lifelike. It was startling how much better she looked. Guess it was the make-up, or better, the lack thereof.

On-air, she's always seemed very Republican to me. Her husband is in the Ayn Rand cult. Last night she seemed to be leaning toward rational thought, or Democratic, which was surprising. She seemed much 'softer.'

No real change in her difficulty getting complete sentences out, though. No matter how iconic she is thought to be, she should still retire.

I tuned in late. How did Katy Tur and Alex Wagner do? Who were they paired with?

Alex Wagner was with Joy. If Katy Tur was there, I missed it.

[quote]It's interesting seeing everyone's full bodies, not sitting behind a desk.

I didn’t see it last night, so I must ask: how was Andrew’s body? Is he as slim as he seems when sitting behind a desk?

There is an audio podcast of the event shown on TV if anyone is interested at the link.

You might be able to see the event at the MSNBC website but that site just does not work properly for me, I always get a [quote] Access to MSNBC is temporarily unavailable. The problem will be resolved as soon as possible.

I have gotten that message for years.

He looked fine. Kind of shlubby, but that's the nerdy sexy part of him, I guess. He isn't particularly skinny. Or didn't look so. I like when he has khakis and Adidas' on under the table., but last night it looked like clothes that you would lie around in, exercise in, or go to bed wearing if it was cold. Maybe someone else can decipher his wardrobe that night.

They all dressed very casually, if questionably. Maybe they just dressed as they do off-camera at home. I think Michael Steele may have had sweat pants on. Claire looked like she was wearing slippers. Some looked neat, some looked sloppy.

You can see some of the behind the scene glimpses of the event at the below link, none of Andrew Weissmann though.

To be fair, Ari asked Andrew an interesting question - I'm paraphrasing - but it was asking Andrew about how he made the change from high powered government lawyer where he could say nothing publicly to being a talking head on MSNBC.

Andrew didn't really answer the question but I thought that would have been a very interesting discussion of how it actually happened.

Lawrence O'Donnell was in a suit and tieless dress shirt, but he wore the dress shirt untucked!

[quote]Ari and Andrew? WTF was that 4 minutes about?

It was about Andrew flirting with Ari, in case you missed it. They looked like two guys who were getting to know each other at a gay bar. Andrew was openly flirting with the guy - they way he was looking at Ari and talking to him with his gay mannerisms. I think Ari understood what was going on. Not surprised if the two of them headed back to Ari's dressing room and Andrew gave him a BJ.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of any gay rumors about Ari but wouldn’t be shocked if he’s the type to be “open-minded.”

For anyone (like me) who missed it last night, they’re re-broadcasting the Brooklyn event again tonight at 9pm EST.

R42

Yeah, got that. I should've been more explicit than WTF was that about. More like WTF was going on between those two?

Andrew looked ridiculous trying to get huggy with Ari who looked very uninterested in that.

I also thought, "Oh, Andrew. Really? Ari? If you're going to go fully gay, be a little more discerning. Or more choosy, at least."

It made me question Andrew's judgement. Which is ridiculous on my part. Ari is attractive, but he's. such an asshole.

grateful that MSNBC exists, but the whole effort to brand these hosts as celebrities that are all "friends in real life" is something I find somewhat cynical and repellent. It's probably very smart business wise, and I bet mine is the minority opinion.

Having said that the only interest I have in any infotainment celeb on MSNBC is this. I'd like to know if Jon Lemire has sucked cock and if he will be sucking mine anytime soon.

R47

the answer to the first question is probably not

the answer to the second question is definitely not.

I was a little surprised at Chris Hayes' lame attempt at humor when he make a joke about with his wife being there that "Who is watching the kids?" His wife is an accomplished well known attorney and she can't appear outside the house without a question of who is watching the kids, when he appears in public all the time and no one questions who is watching the kids. I know it was just his lame attempt at humor but still. I still like him and watch him every night.

Thanks for confirming r48. I suspect you are correct. That puts an end to my interest in any broadcaster's personal life. Too bad, though, I was going to t put a Yankees cap on him and tell him he'd have to wear it in public if he didn't satisfy my demands.

Onward!

Who is this annoying former female agent explaining to Alex Witt “what a motorcade actually is…” 🙄

She gives off Trump bimbo vibes r51.

No one is going to weigh in on Felonious Fatty’s newest would be assassin?

I wonder if blowsy Alex Witt is annoyed when stuff like this happens when’s she’s on air, she then has to do some work.

[quote] No one is going to weigh in on Felonious Fatty’s newest would be assassin?

IT has its own thread, we don't need to be talking about that crap here.

Unless he’s dead, it’s not even newsworthy.

Ken Mehlman and Jake Traylor - separated at birth?

Dave Aronberg, State Attorney for Palm Beach County is participating in the law enforcement press conference as he should.

But with his MeidasTouch podcast and is regular MSNBC appearances, I wonder if he’s going to be disqualified if there’s a prosecution of the alleged shooter.

Does Ali Velshi ever get go home? He's always there.

*Does Ali Velshi ever get to go home? He's always there.

[quote]I was a little surprised at Chris Hayes' lame attempt at humor when he make a joke about with his wife being there that "Who is watching the kids?"

I was a lot surprised. Sexist and dismissive.

MSNBC ~ STOP with the pretend trump “shooting “!!

Dave Aronberg is a DILF.

Who is this cute hottie Jake Taylor? Or is it Traylor?

Either way.....whoa!

R62, thank you! I can't understand why they've been obsessing over this all afternoon and evening. From what I've heard he wasn't even shot at, so there really wasn't much of a story here to make it worth preempting their entire evening of programs over (plus dragging Chris Jansing in from the rest of her weekend!). It's just ridiculous.

The alleged shooter was 300-500 yards away from Trump. That's three to five football fields. Outside the range of that AK-47. Just think about how far that is. If you're in NYC, 300 yards is about 3 1/2 blocks.

On Wednesday's Dateline Whitehouse, while discussing the debate, I'm fairly certain Nicolle misinterpreted one of Trump's stupid and racist comments.

"I read where she WAS NOT black, that she put out. And then I read that she WAS black"

Nicolle interpreted the phrase "that she put out" to be a sexual slur, rather than a reference to Harris supposedly putting out the statement that she was not black. I think maybe she was reading the text of the debate transcript.

She then ran the comment by Sharpton and Tim Miller, to get their reaction on the "odious, odious and misogynous" remark. Tim called it gross but neither really confirmed it as a sexual comment.

Wonder if anyone may have pointed this out to her. Not that it makes Trump's remarks less offensive, but it's the sort of thing that the likes of Faux News would pounce on and have a field day with.

R67

No,no,no. He knew exactly what he was doing and it may have been pre-planned. He does a lot of - for a very stupid man - double entendres.

I heard it as "she put out" sexually - which they've already slurred her with - and was surprised when no one else mentioned it until Nicolle.

That fucker knew exactly what he was saying.

I don't think Faux News would want to bring any light to that stupid remark by investigating it. However, it was intended it was odious.

He said she put out, followed by “I’ll say that”.

He was alluding to that disgusting meme he posted about her and Hillary getting to where they are due to their relationships with men.

He was calling Harris a slut.

Do not look for excuses or pretend there’s any misunderstanding here.

Trump loves to do stuff like this, say something where the meaning can be taken two ways and then claim pure innocence if anyone calls him on it. While we can't always know his intent it happens way too often to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I called him out on it when he said it on the debate thread.

What trump often does is a form of plausible deniability.

[quote]Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for actions committed by or on behalf of members of their organizational hierarchy.

[quote]If illegal or otherwise disreputable and unpopular activities become public, high-ranking officials may deny any awareness of such acts to insulate themselves and shift the blame onto the agents who carried out the acts, as they are confident that their doubters will be unable to prove otherwise.

Implausible in this case.. Listened to it a few times, scumbag that he is, he just meant to say "which she put out".

You seem very invested in defending him, r73.

Who is this bothsider David Drucker?!? Even the queen of Bothersiderism, Katy Turd, has had to set him straight about “overheated rhetoric.” Rashida usually has a good eye, but sometimes a RWNJ slips through.

They keep showing those 4Patriots preper commercials for solar power generators and preper meals on MSNBC so I assume enough MSNBC viewers must be buying their stuff to make it worthwhile for them.

How long before donald announces that he cannot rely upon the SS protection and calls on his MAGA militia to guard him?

They're STILL talking about the assassination plot from yesterday. Wake me up when it works.

[quote] How long before donald announces that he cannot rely upon the SS protection and calls on his MAGA militia to guard him?

I don't think even Trump is that stupid.

[quote]I don't think even Trump is that stupid.

Rule Number One: There is no bottom with Dump.

Nicolle Wallace to Tim Ryan, "You ran a very effect campaign against JD Vance"

He lost 53.04% to 46.92%

2,192,114 votes for Vance 1,939,489 votes for Ryan

R74 YTTV has Deadline Whitehouse as my most recorded/watched program. Believe me, I have no interest in defending Trump, just don't like to see Nicolle opening herself up to potential ridicule.

GA Senator Jon Ossoff was a guest on Jen Psaki's show tonight, following an appearance by the always animated MA Senator Elizabeth Warren. Quite honestly, Ossoff is the complete opposite of Warren when it comes down to TV appearances - no one would describe him as animated.

However, while Psaki was closing her segment before a commercial break, and telling her audience to stay tuned as Ossoff was up next, the camera was focused on a shot of Ossoff staring at the cameras, waiting in the wings to take his seat.

Ossoff appeared to be in a trance, staring at the cameras and giving viewers the most erotic 'come suck me off' look if ever there was one. A stagehand had to wake him out of his trance to let him know it was time to stop staring at the camera, and join Jen at the desk.

While Rachel was talking about the two assassination attempts on Pres Ford, I wish she had mentioned the at the time the head of the Secret Service was a white male who wasn't forced to resign.

Looking at the picture of Hillary Clinton on her new book cover, it begs the question - does she go to Streisand's hair dresser these days ? Does he / she tell every female client over 75 to grown their hair long and unkempt and make sure it's white / yellow ?

Her hairstyle is flattering, r86.

Was anybody really asking for a new Hillary book?

Why do you have a problem with it, r88?

Adjust the color just a bit, and it could be a Reba book cover.

R84 I've seen that same procedure with multiple guests on Psaki's show - stand here, look to camera, as we go to break we'll escort you to your seat. It's sort of odd, but Ossoff was just taking direction, he didn't seem that much stranger than others.

I was just thinking the other day that you see Sen Warnock on TV all the time but almost never see Jon Osoff. I just thought it was strange that the two Georgia Senators take such different approaches to putting themselves out there. Then I though that seems to be the case with many Senators from the same state, one will be very public and the other one you never hear of. Take for example Delaware's Chris Koons, I couldn't even tell you who the other Senator from Delaware is, I know he is retiring but couldn't name him.. Massachusetts has Senator Warren on TV all the time, couldn't even name the other Massachusetts Senator. Tennessee Senator Blackburn on conservative TV all the time, I have no clue who the other Senator is from Tennessee. Missouri has Josh Hawley on TV all the time, the other Senator some guy named Eric Schmitt, I had to look it up.

Is Lisa Rubin wearing entirely different make-up, or did she - during the break between the NY trump. trial and now - have some work done on her eyes?

Maybe it's just me, but she looks different. Not better or worse. Not good or bad. Just different, and it's around her eyes. They look softer, or maybe rounder (if there is such a thing.)

[quote] [R84] I've seen that same procedure with multiple guests on Psaki's show - stand here, look to camera, as we go to break we'll escort you to your seat. It's sort of odd,

It's very odd and awkward, especially since the guests are political figures. It's not like they can laugh or twirl or wink at the audience. It's just stand and stare. I'll bet the guests hate it.

[quote]or twirl

Or pivot.

[quote] Well I guess we now know why Rachel stopped doing the cocktail of the week.

Trying to catch up - but why did she stop doing the cocktail hour? TIA

R10 Yeah I'm just stupid tbh. How is that a good timeslot if it's so late on the west coast already?

[quote] Trying to catch up - but why did she stop doing the cocktail hour? TIA

At the MSNBC live event in the give and take between Ari Melber and Andrew Weissmann somehow the talk of having a drink came up and Andrew Weissmann felt it necessary to clarify that they don't drink while at MSNBC, how that is completely forbidden. So it was my take that is why Rachel was no longer doing the Friday Night Cocktail.

Is Matteo Lane here?

Just wondering. The comedy can't be taking that much time.

Luv ya, Matt.

Thank you, R98. So this must be a new policy? or one that was existed but was being ignored by Rachel?

Not sure what to think about it.

Rachel will be on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen tonight. Get your questions in on Twitter.

Rachel's Friday night cocktail mix goes back a dozen or so years ago.

Thank you, David Jolly, for defining the word "rhetoric" for the media lemmings who've misused it this past year.

New word alert: "Calcified" (courtesy of Russ Buettner). See how long before it takes hold.

I still haven't added granular to my vocaculary.

Poor Russ Buettner who co wrote Lucky Loser with Susanne Craig, I think every MSNBC host has messed up pronouncing his name on the first try the last two days that I have seen.

Lawrence is on fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥.

Yes, he is, r106. And justifiably so.

A mom died from not getting a DnC and Lawrence is bailing the asses of W Bush and Trump to the Supreme Court Dobbs decision

NAILING ^^^^^

Lawrence actually broke down over the 6 year old who unnecessarily lost his mother.

Murderers!

It appears that Harris watches The Last Word.

Lawrence is shaking as he is reading x-eets she just posted about Amber's death.

Did anyone else catch Tim Miller today with Nicolle Wallace? As he was contrasting the grace of other leaders, unlike Trump, who met assassination attempts without thereafter blaming their political political opponents, he singled out Ford, Reagan … & JFK.

Trump sucks.

[quote] Rachel's Friday night cocktail mix goes back a dozen or so years ago.

"And now it's time to go to Prison".

OMG! Just found out that damn fugly ass Jon Lovett from Pod Save America is going to be in the newest season of Survivor. It’s a no for me.

I'm recording it. Haven't watched since the aughts. I'm interested to see how annoying he is.

John Heilieman is on early for Morning Joe.

He looks like Rashida talked to him about getting loud and obnoxious on MJ.

JoScar is the only one to do that.

Pity because he is the best substitute for Nicole on Deadline White House.

He can fill a two hour slot with ease and interest.

Symone looks like she is not happy getting up this early, midweek.

And fuck Eugene Daniels for joining the Black Men, Kiss My Ass constituency.

The reason Black women get more political attention is because, as Michelle exhorted, they DO THINGS!

Black men are kiss-my-ass complainers, just like Palestinian Americans. Do nothing demanders.

Prediction: no two groups of American voters will be ignored more AFTER the election that these complainers who do not organize and get Democrats elected. Stay home, don't vote, fuck yourself using the freedom of your vote.

The reason the LGBT+ comminity has come so far is such a short time is because WE GET DEMOCRATS ELECTED... BEFORE THE DEMANDS.

R118

No more coffee for you.

Our own Steve Kornacki’s mother Anne has passed at the age of 77. Obituary linked below. Condolences to son Steve Jr., and his partner Brian Duffy of New York.

Did we know that Steve was hitched?

And fuck Eugene Daniels for joining the Black Men, Kiss My Ass constituency.

The reason Black women get more political attention is because, as Michelle exhorted, they DO THINGS!

Black men are kiss-my-ass complainers, just like Palestinian Americans. Do nothing demanders.

Prediction: no two groups of American voters will be ignored more AFTER the election that these complainers who do not organize and get Democrats elected. Stay home, don't vote, fuck yourself using the freedom of your vote.

The reason the LGBT+ comminity has come so far is such a short time is because WE GET DEMOCRATS ELECTED... BEFORE THE DEMANDS

R121

Didn't we tell you no more coffee?

And to a small dicked Irishman!

[quote] And fuck Eugene Daniels for joining the Black Men, Kiss My Ass constituency.

Does Eugene Daniels think he's an opinion journalist?! I mean, I'm happy he's on Kamala's side, but he's supposed to be an objective journalist.

Fucking Many HaHa Wallace complimenting Melania's body in response to the former first spouse's new book and political ad in which she defends her nude porno photographs, comparing them to classic works of art.

A true journalist would not admire the subject in the absence of actual evidence, Wallace, nor assume the voters have seen the images. Call out for Melania to show the photos, you stupid, stupid woman!

Poor Mike Schmidt.

She didn't admire Melania. She was confused by the campaign Putin out her naked titties st this time.

And she is using the word bullshit more and more when calling out Trump lies.

Love Nicole.

"She is beautiful and she is celebrating her naked beauty ... I don't think I would ever put clothes on if I looked like that" Nicolle Wallace's actual words in response to Melania's ad accompanied, of course, by her banal peals of laughter.

Call it what you may, R126; sounds like admiration to me.

[quote] And fuck Eugene Daniels for joining the Black Men, Kiss My Ass constituency.

It’s not just Eugene Daniels. The two other well-known openly gay television, journalists, Donita Lemon and Johnathan Capehart are married to white men. Interesting.

Shamefaced Many HaHa must have heard viewer feedback to her Melania praise, and then John Heileman, adding insult to injury, slung her former boss W's reluctance to denounce donald in her face.

To be a fly on the wall ..

Nicole fangurl'd Melania for looking good.

Period

Fangurl got her ass handed to her, off-air and on.

Don't think so

Stop overreacting.

[quote] John Heileman, adding insult to injury, slung her former boss W's reluctance to denounce donald in her face.

That was not my takeaway. Heilemann said he has no inside knowledge of what W. might do, but didn't think it dispositive that he not yet endorsed Harris. He said if the Harris campaign had W.'s endorsement they would not release it now, but wait until late October.

DVR alert: Rachel is on Colbert’s show tonight.

Nicole just chided Michael Steele for not saying assholes on air, he said asses, and Nicole chimed in mommy is watching.

Alicia Menendez is 🔥🔥🔥

Fun fact from checking out Michael Steele's Wikipedia page. I was trying to see if Michael had been more than once the way he was talking about blended families, while it appears that he has only been married to his current wife, he was raised by a step father after his birth father died and his mother remarried.

[quote] Steele's sister later married and divorced former heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson.

Fun fact: Michael Steele was a scum, sucking, lowlife Republican before Trump came along. RNC Chairman…. I hate that boisterous and nauseating blowhard. I’ll tell you Hi this; if a “decent” Republican comes along for a bid to the White House, Ms. Steele will back flip, and park his nose right up that person‘s shitter. And I mean in a loving way.

Regarding Kornacki's sudden announcement of his partnership: Brian Duffy is/ was "producer of on air talent" at MSNBC, whatever that means. He sucks off Kornacki before showtime so he's at ease in front of the camera? There have been several pictures posted of them together on his and his sister's Instagrams and shared here on DL. They met right around the time Kornacki joined MSNBC and Duffy was a lowly cameraman on Today. That's quite a jump from cameraman to producer. It makes me wonder who Duffy put out to to get so far.

It's my understanding there was tiff between the two a few years ago (2018, 2019) leading to Kornacki's chubby stage. Duffy was pursuing DL fave Vaughn Hillyard (sp?). Then his mother fell ill. Both events led to Kornacki's anorexic appearance due to worry and "wanting to get his man back!", so he wanted to turn himself into the type to which Duffy is attracted. Also, after their breakup, Steve moved from the apartment Duffy and he shared, to his parents house. Once Hillyard was off the market, Duffy turned his attention back to Stevieboy.

Oh well, they deserve each other, but I don't give them very long. Both of them are assholes. Duffy can't keep it in his pants (he's still on Grindr!). As many have joked here on DL, Kornacki is a little on the spectrum and is a bit of an overgrown spoiled brat who must have everything his way. He likes to drink and play the horses. His four year contract with MSNBC is up next year.

Some added gossip, his sister was married and had settled into the frau life: a husband (white, attractive in an average Joe way), a big house, a daughter, a son, and a cat. Then she divorced her husband and got herself some BBC, who knocked her up and dumped both of them before last Christmas. It's like her first marriage and kids never existed. Sounds like both sister and brother aren't right in the head.

Erin Burnett is really boring imo. Does anyone like her as an anchor? Also Donnie Deutsch sounds and looks like he’s juicing hard.

Kamala and Oprah are on live now.

R140 I liked Erin Burnett when she was on CNBC and was looking forward to her show when she went on CNN. I fucking hate her on CNN, she must say Out Front 20 times each show. "We're going Out Front now" 'Let's go Out Front for more of this story, I simply can't stand her. This thread is about MSNBC though CNN has its own thread.

R142 I'm thinking of Nicole Wallace - not Erin Burnett

Links to photos of Kornacki's chubby stage or it never happened.

Pics of Kornacki's "partner"?

That’s great gossip, R139! If you know anything about Ari’s love life, please share.

R139 Steve went borderline anorexic to win back an ex, and in an empath play for his sick Mom? Is this fanfic?

Kornacki posted his mother's obituary on Facebook. More and more, life doesn't happen unless it's on Facebook. Or he suffers from. the conceit that the rest of the world NEEDED to know.

Tasteless. Tacky.

R116 FYI Jon Lovett became the first player voted out of this season of Survivor, to he says the great glee of friends and family. And others.

R139 Olivia Nuzzi should do an article about this for NY Mag to take the heat off of her own problems

Àside from compulsive lip plumping, what are Olivia's problems?

I remember Kornacki's coming-out article in "Salon" back in 2011.

He has always sought the limelight, while pretending otherwise. I've never understood his appeal on DL.

R145 See Steve Kornacki’s thread R412

He looks like Vaughn Hillyard.

LL Cool J still looks amazing. You just know Ari wants a piece of that.

Does Rachel Maddow have a special on MSNBC tonight? Her show is showing on my TV listing as being on from 8-11:00 pm eastern, but doesn't show it as a special

R156 - There is a special episode of TRMS at 8pm, followed by her two-hour documentary, "From Russia With Lev," at 9pm.

Thanks, R157.

R156, yes. Rachel is doing a special edition of her show at 8pm ET, then they are showing her documentary “From Russia with Lev” directly after (but it’s also listed on the guide as “The Rachel Maddow Show”).

Sorry, didn’t mean to repeat you, R157.

Yeah, both 8-9:00 and 9-11 were showing up on my listings as just TRMS. Thanks to both for the clarification. I'll be watching (and recording as I usually don't stay up that late.)

You're welcome, R161.

"From Russia ..." will be rebroadcast on Saturday at 8pm and Sunday at 9pm.

C'mon, who doesn't want to see Lev apologize to Hunter?

What am I not getting here?

The year is 2021 and Rachel signs a new contract for $30 million a year through the year 2024 to appear one night a week on TV and special events and make documentaries.

She has produced one documentary now in the year 2024 the last year of her contract and it is being broadcast on TV and they let other hosts who MSNBC is already paying have the night off.

I will most likely enjoy the documentary but I would have watched MSNBC tonight anyway, I suppose a few more people might be watching than usual but I just don't understand how any of this makes any financial sense for MSNBC.

They're overpaying.

That bitch ain’t worth it.

From Russia with Lev:

Lev: Why are you running?

Trump: To save the country from regular people who want to destroy it.

Trump in a nutshell.

They should fire Rachel, and with the money saved, find 10 anchors who actually work.

Fuck ya, haters. Rachel provides quality product. From Russia With Lev is fabulous.

donald's administration in a nut shell: Lev Parnas IS Boris Badenov! Tell it, Lev. Tell it all! This shit is hilarious ... while sad. Thank you, Rachel.

Please book Lev to guest host, SNL!

[quote]Lev Parnas IS Boris Badenov!

But Svetlana is *not* Natasha Fatale!

I’m weeping…openly.

We deserve this document.

I'm incredulous that donald is once again on the verge of having possession of the nuclear codes -- and the fate of the world. That must not happen.

Excellent documentary that was both informative and entertaining.

Stephanie Ruhle was on the panel of Real Time tonight.

R164 John Oliver makes roughly $10 mil for 21 shows in which he basically performs for 30 minutes once a week. It sounds like he contributes a fair amount of the content and concepts. It's a popular show. If you just consider on-screen time he's making more than Rachel. I personally don't like him or his show, but Is he overpaid? Fuck if I know.

Don't live in the US, but busting to see this doco of Rachael's. Hope they show it on the tube.

[bold]NOBODY[/bold] is worth $30M a year. Nobody. And certainly not a news celebrity. An occasional documentary and one night a week on-air show is not worth $575k a week.

That's obscene.

And before you come at me with all the other people in the world making that much or more - for whatever - they are all obscene, too. But we're talking about MSNBC here. I wonder what all the other MSNBC personalities think about her and her pay contract.

I agree r178. That is an awful lot.

I think that Trump haters can name their own price.

The other MSNBC personalities are inspired by Rachel and her success.

Rache's real worth comes into play when she moderates those MSNBC panels on election and debate nights and other breaking news stories that require her incomparable perspective, intelligence and wit.

No Symone today, only Alicia and Michael, YAAAAA!!!

On Tuesday we are six weeks out, a month and a half, from in person election day.

I miss Symone!

Ugh, R182, I HATE the way she anchors those panels, esp when it's she, Nicolle, Joy, Chris H, and Alex W all together. Wayyyyy too much kikiing at wayyyy too high a pitch--it's like listening to Betty Rubble and Wilma Flintstone giggle for three hours. As the old folks would've put it, "Y'all play too much."

When Lawrence is on with them he looks like he's 1/10th of a second from screaming "STOP THAT HAMMERING!"

I'm all for a bit of wit and levity while broadcasting these things, but the current Big Events lineup just feels uneven, like it lurches from tween slumber party to solemnly reading the funeral notices in the daily newspaper.

I get Rachel's the marquee name, but Lawrence has the seniority, political experience, gravitas, and wit that should've made him the natural choice to succeed Brian Williams as Event Night anchor/facilitator.

It should be Lawrence.

Lawrence love deferring to Rachel, as it means he is not called out on all these crappy panels for very long.

Yeah, Chris, Alex, Lawrence, Joy, Jen, Ali, Nicolle, they all look like resent the shit out of Rachel and her obscene obscene pay packet. You can just see it in their eyes.

r188, it is only an issue when they are negotiating with Rashida.

I wonder when Rashida is negotiating contracts with the other anchors if she says, well we would just love to pay you more, you are worth it but since Rachel is getting $30 million a year for one night a week unless Monday is a holiday, we just can't afford to pay you what you are worth.

This link is showing MSNBC was the Number 1 cable and broadcast network for August 2024 with an audience of 5,999,000

Meanwhile FOX was number 6 with an audience of 2,396,000

I am not really sure I believe them because FOX always has the highest rated individual shows.

MSNBC's successful August - & Fox's poor showing - probably has to do more with the still-early launch of the Harris campaign & the Democratic Convention.

Does that mean that people are not necessarily turning off Fox, but also watching a little MSNBC?

I can't imagine anyone who regularly watches Fox or MSNBC having any patience for even 5 minutes of the other.

2 minutes is the max for me.

R190 BW chose not to return, but attrition overall at MSNBC seems very low. The talent appears to be reasonably satisfied with their compensation.

[quote] attrition overall at MSNBC seems very low. The talent appears to be reasonably satisfied with their compensation.

Part of the reason for low attrition may be that there is no other place for the talent to go -- at least the prime-time talent. Since MSNBC is considered to be a liberal network, hosts like Chris Hayes or Joy Reid, for example, would have a hard time getting hired as a reporter or anchor by an "objective," "non-partisan" news outlet. And there is no other major liberal-leaning broadcast network where they could go. Their only other option would probably be to launch their own podcast (like disgraced Fox News stars Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly), but that would be a huge step down in pay and prestige.

I like Symone but I did not miss her on The Weekend this morning. I did not miss all the verbal stumbling and loud interruptions.

Why is MSNBC considered a liberal network? Why is reporting the truth considered liberal?

Should I be watching Fox News to get the whole story because MSNBC is biased? How is MSNBC biased?

Why is the news - or any media - always accused of bias when reporting the truth about Republicans?

Why is both-siderism valued in the media if we all know that there's a difference between the sides?

[quote]“If someone says it’s raining and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out the fucking window and find out which is true.” Journalism Professor Jonathan Foster:

r198, Symone is on The Weekend today. She even touted her fellowship. All three.

Are you watching ... Fox?

[quote]Part of the reason for low attrition may be that there is no other place for the talent to go -- at least the prime-time talent.

There's always room to reinvent yourself.

[quote] Why is MSNBC considered a liberal network? Why is reporting the truth considered liberal?

I'm a regular viewer who, of course, is a passionate opponent of Trumpism, but it's nonetheless apparent to me that the channel suffers from cognitive dissonance. As cheerleaders for the Democratic Party, for example, you will rarely see or hear anything critical of Harris, including the polling that is not so advantageous. So the "truth" MSNBC reports has to be seen within this jaundiced lens.

[quote]you will rarely see or hear anything critical of Harris

They employ a few Trumpers, like Katy Turd.

Katy Tur is NOT a Trumper!!!!

R204 IS Tur the Trump Tur’d.

MSNBC hired Megyn Kelly and Greta Van Susteran back in the day. It didn't work out, but it happened.

News is unlikely to be found on major networks or their offshoots. You need to go to publicly funded sources like PBS or BBC, which will still contain some level of bias. Most viewers are bored by objective news and prefer getting their emotions worked up with MSNBC or Fox or CNN.

Megyn Kelly and Greta Van Susteran are not reputable representatives of "the other side."

I feel strongly that they will go running back to be certified Republicans when the stench is eliminated, but I do enjoy listening to Tim Miller and Michael Steele, for example, to get a Republican perspective. Steele hasn't actually left the Republican party, and I should know, but I'm not sure about Miller.

I'm not sure about someone like David Jolly (former Florida Republican rep) - he may now be a Democrat for life. Way before the Republicans started moving to Harris, Jolly was saying that if we wanted to fix "this mess", we had to vote for Democrats.

Right now, most sane people of either party want exactly the same things. I don't need someone on MSNBC extolling the virtues of trump etc to feel that I'm getting an unbiased look at the race. Or the world, for that matter.

BTW - See Stephanie Ruhle's take on both sides bullshit. If the link works, you should see her bit on Maher's show. If the link doesn't work, see if you can find it. She's GOOD.

I love that Dump called Stephanie Ruhle a bimbo on Truth Social yesterday.

And David Jolly is very sexy to me. He must have been stunning when he was in his 20s. His wife is lucky.

Sarah Longwell is great from The Bulwark. She's still a Repug BUT a Never Trumper. Agree with R209, David Jolly is gorgeous!

[quote] [R204] IS Tur the Trump Tur’d.

Ha. I'm most definitely not, but I don't expect one whose job is to be an objective anchor to be a full-time cheerleader for one campaign or another. And anyone who remembers her coverage of Trump's '16 campaign will undoubtedly remember her low-level rage of the candidate.

[quote] Sarah Longwell is great from The Bulwark. She's still a Repug

Is she? I think she's probably left the party much like her Bulwark colleagues.

I’ve always wanted to suck David Jolly’s cock.

Simone is still waiting for that call/job offer from Vice President Harris; it's never gonna happen.

[quote] Katy Tur is NOT a Trumper!!!!

The fuck she isn’t r204. You sound like an idiot. Even Nancy Pelosi shaded her to her face about that.

Yeah, yeah, r204 - and neither is Olivia Nuzzi. Keep defending them.

Can't wait to watch Stephanie Ruhle's show tomorrow and hear her response to Trump calling her a stupid bimbo.

[quote] MSNBC hired Megyn Kelly and Greta Van Susteran back in the day. It didn't work out, but it happened.

Never forget that Tucker Carlson has worked at both CNN and MSNBC, that must be something to be fired by all three major cable networks.

If Stephanie Ruhle is a bimbo, what is Lara Trump?

More on Kate Shaw. Father was local news royalty in Chicago. She grew up in a Lincoln Park mansion and went to private school. Went to Brown and graduated first in her class at Northwestern Law School. Clerked at the Supreme Court and then it all went to hell when she married Chris Hayes. She could have had anyone and she chose him. No accounting for some people.

I took the who's at home with the kids remark to mean--we're both here so who's with the kids?

I’m listening to John Heilemann and Nicolle Wallace on his podcast Impolitic. I have 2 observations.

It’s obvious John has a crush on Nicolle when you see them on TV. It’s GLARINGLY obvious listening to the podcast.

Nicolle said fuck. I'm more shocked than I should be.

Nicolle helped to make John's career when she was a key source for him in the McCain/Palin campaign, leading to his best-selling Game Change.

Trapped in a dead-end job at MSNBC, bitter over unfair pay practices that favor one under-performing aging brand name show horse, I'll bet they're all just miserable.

R223 they are probably all making at least a million a year, where else could they make that money? While they promote their books, podcasts and side speaking jobs.

They certainly have other choices available, R223. We're all aware of CNN's and FOX News' long held reputations for harmonious, kumbaya-style working environments, along with fair treatment for all on-air talent. Then there's the newer networks like News Nation or the opportunity to become a pioneering liberal trailblazer on Newsmax or OAN, though they both require aknowledgement of the existence of a "deep state" that controls the U.S. government prior to hiring.

[quote] Nicolle said fuck. I'm more shocked than I should be.

John Heilemann once said on his podcast that Nicolle has the dirtiest mouth of anyone he's ever met.

[quote]John Heilemann once said on his podcast that Nicolle has the dirtiest mouth of anyone he's ever met.

A regular Julie Andrews.

[quote] I'll bet they're all just miserable.

a misconceived gibe at those here who seem to think MSNBC personnel should be despairing.

R202 that would be cognitive consonance on their part. not dissonance.

Also I think you mean their biased lens. jaundiced implies bitterness, resentment, or envy.

Finished watching Rachael's doco. Not being American I knew bits and pieces but this has put it all together well for me now. So much corruption it's staggering. Happy to stay in my little Socialist corner of the world. Well done Rachael and MSNBC. Vote blue up and down the ticket.

I loved when Harris told Trump to his face that world leaders laugh at him, and consider him a disgrace. He never hears that in person. He clings to what Victor Orban told him - that he is feared - leaving out the important part, he's not feared out of respect, he's feared like a disease.

It must be tough for allies who strategically can't back a specific candidate before the election, but who have so much riding on the outcome.

Mike, looking more formally attired than I've ever seen him. He also looks like someone not accustomed to being clean-shaven. Even though I think he usually is.

[quote] It’s obvious John has a crush on Nicolle when you see them on TV.

Plainly obvious. I think I even caught him blushing at one point.

Somewhat cringey when he's an on air guest, she introduces him, and asks a substantive question, and his first response is a drawn out "Hello Nicolle" in a sing-songy Pepe Le Pew voice. He might as well start batting his eye lashes.

Katy Tur wants Kamala to debate on Fox to make a case to the Republican voters. Please fuck yourself, Katy.

Right and Trump is insisting that the moderators be Laura & Sean. That wouldn't be a total joke.

I’m really getting annoyed that Nicolle only highlights good polling results.

^^^So he wants biased ass kissers moderating the debate. And the bastard accused Kamala of being given the questions prior to the last debate. Another example of him projecting his own faults and insecurities onto others.

I can't tell what's under the dome. Chocolate...somethings?

{quote]Katy Tur wants Kamala to debate on Fox to make a case to the Republican voters.

So Katy considers FOX legitimate news?

They might as well debate on Dancing With the Stars.

Can't stand that Katy Tur.

Lawrence is off tonight.

Capehart is no substitute.

He did an appropriate clit lick for From Russia with Lev, on the handoff, though b

Jonathan Capehart seems very sweet but damn does he make me sleepy.

He's a Rashida contraindicated Black, gay man.

He's dull.

Jonathan Capehart is another one who continually mispronounces Kamala.

I watched the Lev Parnas documentary and enjoyed it, but I’m not giving him his flowers. Had Trump not turned his back on him, had Parnas not gotten caught, I have no doubt that he would still be aiding and abetting Trump.

I think his contrition is sincere, r247. I mean if Hunter can forgive him...

We can agree to disagree R248.

"Had Trump not turned his back on him, had Parnas not gotten caught, I have no doubt that he would still be aiding and abetting Trump."

Probably, but we can never know. However, it did happen and Parnas took the opportunity to do the right thing. He is an opportunist, after all. admittedly. When in a traumatic situation, people can be swayed to do all sorts of things. But I feel we have to give people the benefit of the doubt in most Trump situations. Trump practically has a supernatural power to attract people to him aside from money and power. We have to have hope that people CAN evolve, especially mentally ill Trumpers.

It was the same thing with Michael Cohen. When asked the same question in interviews, Cohen admits he, himself might still be working for Trump had he not been the fall guy. But he was grateful he was caught as that might have been the very thing that caused him to flip. He's grateful knowing he did the right thing for his children and grateful for the time he now spends with them knowing they have a better future. I choose to believe he's sincere, and I feel the same way about Parnas.

Also, Parnas went out of his way to reveal more information knowing it might increase his sentence, and it did. So there's that.

I'm grateful and willing to believe/forgive Parnas if only for that great clip that ends the documentary when he credits Trump for inspiring him to vote for the first time, "I voted for Joe Biden!"

Katy Tur introduced someone who she said was NBC Senior Political Reporter Henry Gomez and I gotta say I never in my life have heard of him. Do they just hand out the titles around NBC like candy? He is based in Cleveland.

R247 You’re right. If Parnas hadn’t been caught and if Trump hadn’t turned his back on him Parnas would still be involved in all the nefarious bullshit.

Because he’d still be brainwashed and fully in the cult.

But because he was caught and Trump turned his back he got the wake up call he needed and saw the light.

Think of Flynn, Navarro, Bannon and all the rest who’ve committed crimes in Trump’s name. They all paid the price and Trump’s done shit to help them. Yet they’re still fully in his camp.

I think Parnas deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Nicole continues to hang the drum that Trump and Vance are actively shedding women.

It is a frat boy campaign all the way for Rethugs.

Bang^^^

[quote]Katy Tur introduced someone who she said was NBC Senior Political Reporter Henry Gomez and I gotta say I never in my life have heard of him. Do they just hand out the titles around NBC like candy?

Anything Katy Turd says must be viewed through a lens of suspicion.

Parnas has clearly wised up and turned on Trump. What's become of his strangely intimate relationship with Rudy?

Angelo Carusome always seems quite preppy with his button down shirts under his sweaters, but his instagram shows quite another side of him.

[quote] Katy Tur introduced someone who she said was NBC Senior Political Reporter Henry Gomez and I gotta say I never in my life have heard of him. Do they just hand out the titles around NBC like candy? He is based in Cleveland.

The news networks now have some reporters who are mostly writing and reporting for the networks' websites and only appear on camera occasionally. They generally come from mostly print/web backgrounds. It looks like Henry Gomez is one of those people. He spent several years as the chief political reporter at the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper and then BuzzFeed news.

Alex Wagner looks like Commander Ro Laren from Star Trek.

Just an observation. Both are dynamic characters.

I'm undecided and I need to do more research.

When I hear that research crap, I get the feeling that he is a closet Trumper.

I fear for this country when ever they talk to the average voter.

Not the brightest bunch you have there, Alex.

I turned it off and switched to Kuntlyn Collins.

Funny how they all seem to be very opinionated on the border, but abortion, Jan 6th, Democrats bringing back the jobs they are currently working, most of them don't seem to know much about those topics.

Tell me you're a Fox News consumer with telling me you're a Fox News consumer.

That one dumb ass who bought a home that is now worth $50,000 more than what he paid for it and wants to know what are they going to do to bring down house prices.

When you own one you don't want the price dropping.

The older people seem on top of it but the younger ones don't seem to give a shit. They probably don't even vote, anyway.

I am wondering how Alex and her show got these people who mostly don't follow politics and don't seem to care that much to show up to a meeting like this? They have probably never heard of Alex Wagner.

Why is Melissa Murray wearing a tortoiseshell dog collar around her neck? It’s hideous and it looks heavy.

To show how rich she is.

R257 I find him mean -mouthed, no lips.

I was watching the rerun of the show and just shut it off. It’s depressing and worrying how uninformed and uninterested some folks are.

I remember Bernie Sanders and other candidates doing televised town halls. Kamala needs to do the same and give young and undecided people the opportunity to ask her questions.

Just now watching Psaki's show from last night. When the fuck did Fox skank Gretchen Carlson get approved as an acceptable guest on MSNBC? She needs to take her NDA and settlement millions back to Greenwich, and STFU.

All those Alex Wagner MI people, are Fox/Newsmax/OAN viewers who are unaware how filtered their "news" is.

I wonder if any of them knew Harris was the Vice President in the first place?

It was interesting the reaction Wagner got over Dobbs. Blank stares except the one engaged guy who seemed stupefied by the ignorance of the other attendees. Especially when they didn't have an answer and deflected TO FUCKING REPUBLICAN SLOGANS "I have to do more research". What Fox bullshit.

Harris isn't running against Trump, she is running against Fox.

Alex Wagner did nothing to combat the disinformation.

r274, she wasn't there to convert the minds of her group,

She was there to convert the minds of her AUDIENCE.

I think she has effectively shown that Republicans have dumbed down American civics education in their attempt to whitewash Evangelical Plantation History.

[quote]I think she has effectively shown that Republicans have dumbed down American civics education in their attempt to whitewash Evangelical Plantation History.

She was in Michigan. Aren’t Democrats in control there?

[quote]Kamala needs to do the same and give young and undecided people the opportunity to ask her questions.

How many Trump supporters do you think watch Alex Wagner?

r276 since the Civil War?

Since WW2?

Bad Plantation education has been insidious since 1965 and the Great Party Realignment.

Ever since Democrats assumed the mantle of the Party of Lincoln.

[quote]She was in Michigan. Aren’t Democrats in control there?

Like many other states, the population centers are Democratic but everything else is a vast Republican wasteland. Fortunately, Detroit has twice as many people as the entire Upper Peninsula.

Where did I write that a town hall be connected to Alex Wagner in any way, shape or form R277?

Sorry, R277, what I wrote was intended as a reply to another post (R275), not yours. I got the link right but the copy wrong and it makes no sense at all.

[quote] She was in Michigan. Aren’t Democrats in control there?

You're a Republican aren't you? Oh you may label yourself an "independent" but you type like a Republican.

Are you cunts watching Stephanie Ruhle interview VP Harris? The lighting for Steph is HARSH.

She has a That Girl do...

Steph chose the wrong outfit. 🤢 The lighting WAS harsh!

R285, she was the INTERVIEWER.

And…

Focus on the important shit, r287...

That outfit is a regular for Steph and I have never liked it. She is normally a very sharp dresser but that outfit is a total failure but she seems to like it and picks it out for big occasions.

Sorry for the Link but for "some reason" Muriel doesn't allow links to show as a preview from liberal links, but conservative link so up just fine.

[quote]Muriel doesn't allow links to show as a preview from liberal links, but conservative link so up just fine.

Sure, Jan.

Why is that Katy's favorite story of the day?

R289 The "news" channel where anchors actively supported unfounded claims of election fraud, when they ALL knew it was bullshit and will likely pull a similar stunt this year, can go fuck themselves trying to criticize any other network for an interview they felt was too friendly.

Do fuck right off, R288

My fat daughter has farted out one of her world famous, ill informed opinions on Stephanie Ruhle’s interview with Vice President Harris.

My fat daughter is trying to pretend she’s an expert on quality journalism. She should stick with what she knows, the Wendy’s menu.

Mooghan derailed my original post. What a fucking cow. Fucking EVIL cow.

I originally wanted to point out Eugene Robinson s beautifully cut suit. Sleeves cut high in the armpits remove bunching of the jacket shoulders. He loves his arms and his shoulders are flat. This man knows how to order a suit.

Moves ^^^

'The Rev' was a guest on The Reid Out tonight. Discussing the Adams' indictment (Reid was not on his side) she asked Sharpton for his thoughts. He advised we 'wait and see' how this plays out in court, after all he wasn't arrested just indicted.

The opposite advice he gave a few years ago when Trump was indicted (and not arrested). What a swell guy.

I should also add:

The opposite advice he gave a last year when Santos was indicted (and not arrested). What a swell guy.

I haven't been paying attention. Is Eric Adams an actual moron?

Yes, for those of us non-NYers, what is the issue with Adams?

He was bribed by Turkish nationals and officials, allegedly, to do their bidding.

Andrea just burst into tears because her longtime friend and producer was promoted. Get a grip, gal.

Poor Andrea.

What an awkward sendoff to your colleague Michelle Perry! Which is she, promoted or deceased?

I really thought that woman had died the way Andrea was wailing and carrying on.

If Andrea's producer has moved on, then that means Andrea's days are numbered at MSNBC. She's no Gayle King.

Fuck, Velshi bumped Katie Phang for the third hour of the same Hezbollah shit. Does Netanyahu coordinate his attacks with Velshi producers!

Katie gets one fucking hour a week...

Is this Hezbollah shit really breaking news? Terrorist FAFO. Yawn.

Former MSNBC anchor Brian Williams’ surprising return to the broadcasting chair is “imminent” with a source close to the discussions telling the Daily Beast that the veteran anchor is set to sign a deal with Amazon Prime Video for an Election Night special.

R307 And no one will watch him. American viewers are creatures of habit - they will tune in to CNN, FOX and MSNBC (and usually MSNBC wins the night in ratings).

Dear God, NO!! I cannot stand that measured, smarmy, Brian Williams.

R308 I agree! I don’t know of anyone who is going to go “I’ll only watch whatever channel that delightful Brian Williams is on!

R309, but you know he has a big, meaty cock.

R309 Smarmy, yes. Fake self-deprecating manner, yes. Tan-in-a-can looks, yes. Occasional sharp funny commentary, um yeah.

Watching Ana On CNN and her special on Latino voters. Interesting insights.

An hour of Ana? No thanks, no matter how insightful the special may be.

I liked Melissa and Symone’s special on black women voters.

[quote] Watching Ana On CNN and her special on Latino voters. Interesting insights.

Was it more of this, "I need to know what they are going to do "FOR ME"? I have to have someone ask for my vote, don't just assume you are going to get it!!

God people are so damn needy.

R316, the South Texans. were all about Communist Democrats. I had no idea who the fuck they were talking about or what policies they thought were Communist.

I thought that was just a Cuban thing, after Castro, and even with them, just the older generation. Oh well. I did think they tended to be socially conservative and/or religious, even Evangelical instead of Catholic - many of them, these days. Texas may forever be out of reach, but I would have said that about Georgia not too many years ago.

R315, so did I. Well done.

They did not spend any time exposing black men for the lazy fucks they are.

I watched the beginning and will have to search out a recording for the entire show. But I'm. interested if they ever took to task the women at the nail salon that were still UNDECIDED?

^^^Trying to understand the logic of the "Undecideds" is mindboggling. The worst are the "I don't know if I will even vote, but I would never support Trump" crowd. Do they not realize if enough people holding that opinion choose to stay home, the candidate that benefits the most from that apathy is Donald Trump and the GOP? They want fewer people to vote, pulled out all the stops to try to make it more cumbersome to register under the guise of "election integrity" and the Undecideds are playing right into their hands.

That's what I was yelling at the TV during that segment, R322. I was baffled by the young women's responses, and the fact that Melissa and Symone didn't seem to react.

That's when I stopped watching. I can't deal with even HEARING undecideds..

Speaking of "Melissa" - whatever happened to weekend host Melissa Harris Perry ? She was their rising star about five years ago, and then.... ?

Rachel tell me a story…

Couch potatoes need to know, Rachel. Spit it out!

MSNBC is really jacking up the sick and dying children commercials.

The mind of voters, would-be or otherwise, can be quite inscrutable, R323. And this is nothing new. How else to explain that many Bobby Kennedy supporters ended up voting for arch-segregationist George Wallace in 1968.

FYI: Chris Hayes will be on Colbert’s live show after the VP debate.

Matt Bradley looking cute from Beirut.

Chris Hayes is annoying.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Truer words were never spoken.

R331 Naturally manic or coked up?

[quote]Matt Bradley looking cute from Beirut.

Matt Bradley looks cute everywhere.

R324,

5 years ago? She was booted from the network circa 2016!

Both, R331. Homegrown, hyperactive, Ritalin-raised millennial, who, how the fuck do I know, landed a lucrative job with MSNBC.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sorry. Meant for R333.

That was Rachel's doing. Did anyone catch the israeli on Katy Tur who blamed the Iran attack on Biden not cutting off Israeli's weapons.

I’ve come to the conclusion that the MSNBC make-up artists either hate the female anchors or they just hate women in general.

You can see Joy’s yellow highlighter from the moon.

Put her in a tower and her face could guide ships through a fog.

More from Jonathan Swan:

[quote] Trying to portray Trump’s four years in office as a triumph for health-care policy is one of Vance’s more brazen efforts this debate. Trump’s highest-profile health care intervention was his failed effort to repeal Obamacare. Trump kept promising a health-care plan that never arrived. Still hasn’t.

[quote]You can see Joy’s yellow highlighter from the moon.

Joy always looks like a buffoon. Most of her getups and hairstyles have to be her own doing.

What purpose does Chris Hayes serve?

Symone is LIT UP.

I sure wish Jacob had found that young Republican guy who was wanting help paying his college tuition from Vance.

Alicia Menendez has a very nasal voice. Side effect of nose job, maybe.

Jasmine Crocket coming up. Oh, boy! Love her.

Cheek implants, too.

R342, Chris’s purpose is to breed. He already has three kids.

Vance was clearly auditioning for 2028. Trump will hopefully be pissed.

I also couldn't help thinking Dump will be pissed by Vance who so out-slicked him in his debate.

We all heard Vance refuse to acknowledge Trump lost the election.

All Trump heard was Vance neglect to insist that Trump lost.

Countdown to calls to hang JD Vance

^ R351 Damn me! Fucked up my own thought!

All Trump heard was Vance neglect to insist Trump WON!

GET ME AN EDIT BUTTON!

In Trump's mind Vance was way too concilliatory towards Tampon Tim, I'm sure JD will hear about it.

Joy disclosed her makeup artist's name: JaNece Bradford. Based on her unfortunate false lashes this afternoon, Andrea appears to have hired her as well.

Sad.

Eugene Daniels is a sloppy pig reporting with his ugly, unkempt bed in full view.

[quote] In Trump's mind Vance was way too concilliatory towards Tampon Tim, I'm sure JD will hear about it.

Is there any indication that Vance and Trump even speak to each other? When Vance said that Trump would veto a national abortion ban, Trump said he hadn't talked to Vance about it. I sorta get the feeling that communication between Vance and Donald Trump is through Jr.

[quote] Eugene Daniels is a sloppy pig

WHET the other black gay Eugene who frequented MSNBC, the antithesis of sloppy pig, a paragon of male beauty, Eugene Scott?

R356 Honestly all the reaction to the fact that Vance would not admit Biden won - did you really expect him to, as Trump's running mate? Granted his response was utterly lame, "Tim, I'm looking to the future", followed by some bullshit about Kamala Harris and COVID.

Why does Ari Melber insist on having these fucking Trumpers on??

He loves seeing them eat Trump's shit in public.

Nom nom nom Peter Novarro...

Rachel + Lawrence!

Someone needs to tell the dull-as-dishwater Cassidy Hutchinson NOT to take a drink of water from the prop mug on the desk while WIllie Geist is asking her a question, in which she covered her whole face on camera - and all we see is the bottom of the mug. What a dipshit.

THIS is a problem for you R362? You must be a joy to live with.

John Kasich is a worthless panelist for any of MSNBC’s programs. He is reliably and blindly partisan regardless of the question posed (which he rarely answers). When asked two questions about the political impact of Jack Smith’s new evidence being released, he proceeded to ignore the questions and launch into GQP talking points about the Harris campaign. 🙄 Why, Rashida, why?

John Kasich is a closeted FAG.

Longtime Republican congressman, governor, presidential candidate John Kasich endorsed Biden in 2020.

2020 was four years ago.

[quote]Longtime Republican congressman, governor, presidential candidate John Kasich endorsed Biden in 2020.

And he's been bitching that Biden capitulated to "leftists" in the Democratic party ever since.

R363 Yes, it was. She's been on television enough over the past year or so to know better. I have low tolerance for idiots. Sorry if I triggered you.

And for the record, yes I have been told I'm a joy to live with, work with, go out with, etc. Thanks for mentioning it.

[quote]Sorry if I triggered you

You sound triggered, r369.

This is a message board with no volume. I don't 'sound' like anything. However, I am apologetic for triggering you - as I said above.

r371, I'm not r363.

God love Liz Cheney!!!

This rally is one for the Ages, R373. Two true American patriots setting an example for the Nation.

[quote] This is a message board with no volume.

OMG are you telling me you guys don't hear those voices, it is just me?

Even if Harris wins, how do you have pride in a country where nearly half its voters willingly support Donald Trump in 2024? Excuses might be made for 2016, but for 2020 & 2024, there is no way the majority of Trump supporters are either that stupid, uninformed, or mentally ill. Leaving the only alternative, in a very central way they are awful people. Not exclusive to Trump supporters, but undeniable for them.

I actually don't know any Trump supporters, so tell me if I'm wrong.

Nearly half of the electorate has been sufficiently dumbed down by Fox, Newsmax, OAN and Sinclair affiliates to the point that they do not see one thing good that Biden/Harris/Walz has done. It is only the Dobbs decision and women, dying that has moved the Dem needle.

[quote] 2020 was four years ago.

And Biden won four years ago with the help of Kasich & his fellow travelers.

[quote]And he's been bitching that Biden capitulated to "leftists" in the Democratic party ever since.

Damn, are we sure he isn't a secret DLer? Our regular trolls give themselves away with the overuse of words like "leftists" and "Democrat Party" or new ones like "Bidenist."

[quote]Even if Harris wins, how do you have pride in a country where nearly half its voters willingly support Donald Trump in 2024? Excuses might be made for 2016, but for 2020 & 2024, there is no way the majority of Trump supporters are either that stupid, uninformed, or mentally ill. Leaving the only alternative, in a very central way they are awful people. Not exclusive to Trump supporters, but undeniable for them. I actually don't know any Trump supporters, so tell me if I'm wrong.

We have to pick our battles. Continuity of democracy has taken precedence over pride. The Trump cult has to be defeated at the ballot box and denied the opportunity to entrench themselves in government. If they get in, we're fucked and it could take years (or decades) to reverse the damage.

As for trying to understand how or why any person would willingly vote for a delusional human being who cares about no one but himself and someone who would throw the entire country under the bus if he'd benefit from it, I've given up on wondering why they do. Their hypocrisy is disgusting, especially the self-proclaimed "evangelical Christians" backing an adulterous felon convicted of sexual assault.

Winning the election will not end this, but for those whose support doesn't reach the near-religious fervor of the MAGA faithful, they may finally become fed-up with losing election after election by hitching themselves to him and decide that something has to change if they ever hope to return to the days when American politics was more about policy differences and platforms rather than retribution, hate, chaos and grievances. I don't know any Trump supporters and there aren't any of them in my family. I was taught not to judge others, but I want nothing to do with anyone who votes for or supports him, especially as a minority. We have nothing in common and I don't need extra stress in my life. In the future, who knows, but right now in this environment, hell no.

Disbanding Faux News would be a start.

Your data, R378?

The Great Realignment was in progress by 2020, R381.

Changing the subject drastically to something lighter and decidedly more shallow . . .

While watching the Nicole Wallace show today, I suddenly developed a deep, abiding lust for Vaughn Hillyard. I’ve seen him many times before with no effect, but this time he hit me like the proverbial ton of bricks.

I think it was longshot side view of him sitting at the desk in black sneakers, black shortie socks which barely showed above the sneakers and an expanse of bare ankle. It was endearing and made him look vulnerable. Then they cut to a closeup which showed he is beginning to gray. I love cleancut guys, often think they’re the kinkiest in bed, and picturing him on his knees sucking my cock turned me on tremendously. He’s so controlled and buttoned-down, I just sense he’d be a wild fuck.

And yes, I know he’s gay and married to a handsome guy as of last year.

I picture Vaughn as being playfully into piss.

Vaughn is nice but Jacob Soboroff is a tiny bit hotter.

Jacob and Gadi Schwartz are on an elevated hotness spectrum.

But I am sad that Rashida did not bring Steve Romo over from NBC.

Romo would be perfect to replace Tur and her MAGA leanings.

Heilemann has oddly spindly legs, both calves and thighs.

And you know this about John's legs, how?

Nothing comes up even when I search "shirtless." I just saw a picture of his ex-wife (soon to be?), who sort of looks like an unattractive version of Nicolle, which might explain his crush on Nicolle.

Agree about Soboroff. Schwartz doesn’t do it for me.

Jacob, Vaughn, Gadi and Jonathan (Lemire) are all gorgeous. I would happily take either one of them anytime.

No one ever lusts after Garrett Haake or ....can't even remember the other one's name, the blonde with the big tits who often reports on the road? Morgan Chesty?

What about Jake Trailer and his big teeth?

Haake, Chesky, Ryan Nobles and Sam Brock are infinitely hotter than the guys you all are crowing on about.

Opinions differ. i was about to post that I thought Chesky was way too generic.

To me, the only real interesting one is Soboroff. And maybe Vaughn. All the rest look like they came off an assembly line. I'm not denying they would be considered attractive; they just strike me as boring. No heat.

YMMV, of course.

Haake and Nichols have seemed to have aged a lot and are no longer the young man hunks they were.

Still a fan of Romo, though.

Rashida, grrrl, dump Katie Tur to the curb and give Nicole some lead in eye candy.

r390, many side shots of the aforementioned spindly legs are shown in the NYC studio side shots at the table. Spaghetti legs, I believe, they are called. They are a precursor of success in television.

I think that the only chubby legged consultant, whose thighs touch, on MSNBS is Conway. Every other man has spaghetti legs. Oh, and every woman as well. Mika, Joy and Symone might have thighs that touch, but Nicole, Jen, Alex, and most specifically, Stephanie, ALL have driveways.

Does anyone remember when MSNBC auditioned Julian Castro as a show host? That lasted for about 4 months, and then he completely disappeared from the network.

NO R399 I don't remember that at all but MySanAntonio Remembers

So no data, R378? Got it. Lol

[quote]Every other man has spaghetti legs.

I beg to differ.

Ayman is hot until he agrees with throwing you off a building for being a sexual infidel

R401, the last person to recognize the Great Realignment which has transformed politics in the Age of Trump.. Apparently, all the stories about Republican suburban women deserting Trump in '20 somehow escaped this poster's attention. And the college educated men who have been increasingly fleeing the party. And, conversely, all the stories of so many men of color shifting their allegiances away from the Democratic party. You really should try to keep up. Lol.

R398 In the consultant category Danny Cevallos has nicely proportioned limbs. John's stand out mostly by being so scrawny for his size.

[quoe]I think that the only chubby legged consultant, whose thighs touch, on MSNBS is Conway. Every other man has spaghetti legs.

Say what?

Jabob Soboroff was on Katy Tur's show apparently his book, I didn't know he wrote one, was made into a movie

[quote] Official trailer for SEPARATED, by Oscar winner Errol Morris, a film based on my book about the Trump admin’s family separation policy. In theaters starting *this weekend* at @IFCCenter in NYC, with Q&As Friday and Saturday. Broadcast premiere on @MSNBC December 7.

R406 The number of times you have shared this rather prosaic image of Ayman's legs, leads me to think it must (inexplicably) hold a prominent place in your spank bank catalog.

By keeping up, R404, you mean offering only hyperbole and insults? Got it, you have no data. Lol. Keep digging, Gomer.

[quote] Broadcast premiere on @MSNBC December 7

Thanks for the heads up. Errol Morris fan. But not a particularly helpful broadcast date considering.

Oof. Full-figure Donny Deutsch in profile sitting at Nicolle's table looks like a bull frog.

For those who somehow missed the news. "America is in the throes of a political realignment unequaled in a century."

R411 Gone are the days, as Joe Scarborough pointed out this morning, that Donnie shows up in a black Baby Gap t-shirt. Thankfully.

Kimmel from last night, paraphrased. Melania has gone public to say that she has always been Pro-Choice. She even supported making it legal to abort step-children.

Did it burn your delicate fingers, R412?

The Great alignment is the separation of the non-racist woke mosaic and the racist White National Evangelical Supremacists. Labor vs Capitalist.

There is no Great Realignment. As soon as Trump is gone from political arena, the parties will go back to how they were before. Does anyone really think people like the Cheneys are going to become Democrats?

On Katy Tur's show, a video was shown today of a house floating down the rapid water of Hurricane Helene's flood and the woman was saved but her husband and dog where at the other end of the house and they perished. I wish I didn't know that.

[quote] There is no Great Realignment. As soon as Trump is gone from political arena, the parties will go back to how they were before. Does anyone really think people like the Cheneys are going to become Democrats?

Do you seriously think we're going back to "normie" Republicans like McCain & Romney - the immediate predecessors to Trump as the GOP standard bearer - when Trump is finally gone from the political scene? Do you seriously think the welcome mat will be unfurled for the heretics who abandoned their party to endorse the likes of Biden and/or Harris? Ask the ghost of Joe Lieberman if he had any future in the Democratic Party when he endorsed McCain.

[quote]Ayman is hot until he agrees with throwing you off a building for being a sexual infidel

Out of curiosity, has Ayman ever admitted to being homophobic in the past like Mehdi Hasan confessed or has he said something on air that would be considered anti-gay? Yes he's Muslim, but he's covered LGBT topics on his show before and had gay guests. Hell, he even interviewed a drag queen several weeks ago, although I forgot what topic they discussed. What makes him a "throw you off a building" type of the extremist variety?

I'm seeing a chiron announcing "George Conway joins The Weekend"

Just tuned in. Does it mean just today? Or forever?

Oh. Well, Symone just asked George if he'd stay with them, so I guess it's just today.

No, r417, but Regular Republicans are going back to a 40-year cycle of semi-permanent minority party status. Just like the 50 years of prosperity Democrats enjoyed before Reagan.

This is good as it gives them sufficient time on the naughty stool for fucking up the country with Trump.

Also, this time Republicans showed who they were earlier than when we become a Minority majority country. That is what all of this Originalism crap is with the Supreme Court. The SC is basing all of its decisions on the original Constitution, Blacks 3/5 of a person and all Amendments after the Bill of Rights, INVALID. Original Constitution. No organic evolution.

They need to be strung up.

I don't really get why MSNBC keeps dragging out former Congresswoman Donna Edwards as they did on The Weekend today. She seems like a really nice person but she is about as interesting as a cup of room temperature water. There are so many powerful black Democratic women out there that can speak with passion and are interesting. I thought maybe they are trying to help her out since she has MS but she is a retired Congresswoman with a pension and lifetime government healthcare.

[quote]Regular Republicans are going back to a 40-year cycle of semi-permanent minority party status.

I'm old enough to remember when the same claim was made after Romney's loss to Obama in 2012.

George Conway would have to stop all his political activity if he were to become a MSNBC host that isn't going to happen before the election.

r425, Majority minority status, was only on the horizon.

Why do you think the election coin has landed on it side for so many elections.

2016 united Evangelical White Supremacists.

2020, with Biden, was a breather.

2024 is the full court capitalist racist press.

r426, like JoeScar?

R428 JoeScar was suspended for political activity but that was back in 2010, I am talking about today.

[quote]I actually don't know any Trump supporters, so tell me if I'm wrong.

I can't believe the number of very educated people I know and respect (especially their opinions) greatly, and are supporting Trump. It truly boggles the mind. These are men and women in their 30s - 70s. They are educators, medical professionals, legal eagles, etc. in my very Blue state (RI) and they are for Trump.

Last night I had dinner with a young friend (he's 30, I'm 60) who is a middle school history teacher (in a rather rough school district). For a 30 year old today, he's very responsible and smart - I enjoy my time with him. He's a Trump supporter. His big fear ? 'These illegals' are taking our job. I asked him how many illegals are lining up to take his job as a middle-school US history teacher ? He had no answer.

One thing I do when talking to these friends of mine is to ask them 'where are you getting this information from ?' 99.99% of the time they say they don't watch the news or read the newspaper - as though that's an answer. So I press more and ask where this info is coming from - and they finally admit 'social media'. To which I ask - 'You don't trust any TV or print news source, but you trust social media to be telling you the truth ?' And then that ends the conversation.

Is it unintentional or very intentional for Senator Debbie Stabenow to look more and more like 1980's Nancy Reagan every time she makes an appearance on 'The Weekend' ? She could pass as Nancy's daughter.

I can't believe I have to suffer through two hours of Velshi after two hours of better covered info on The Weekend, so I can have the opportunity to watch Katie Phang since she was preempted by Velshi last Saturday.

Rashida, either give Katie an extra hour or bring Romo over for Velshi's second hour.

But FIVE FUCKING HOURS OF VELSHI LAST WEEKEND IS TOO MUCH.

[quote][R406] The number of times you have shared this rather prosaic image of Ayman's legs, leads me to think it must (inexplicably) hold a prominent place in your spank bank catalog

Well, there’s no accounting for taste. We can’t all be so lucky as to frequently spank it to the scintillatingly hot mental images of Soboroff and Lamire 😆.

R430, what I want to know ...was the sex great after all that preamble?

Why did I just turn on MSNBC and they're broadcasting a fucking Dump rally? Do they really think their viewers want to see that shit?

They know how much he repulses us.

The best thing aside from Katie Phang this morning was Ali Vitaly in for Witt.

[quote]But FIVE FUCKING HOURS OF VELSHI LAST WEEKEND IS TOO MUCH.

Ali Velshi must get hefty overtime pay for being on call 24/7. I wonder if he has a room at MSNBC headquarters, because he's always there to sub for regular hosts. You never know when or where his peanut head will pop up, but if a sub is needed, odds favor him being the one filling in. I don't have a problem with him, but it seems a bit much at times.

Velshi is just grateful he has a job, he works when ever they need him so that he seems indispensable.

I use to love him when he was CNN and Al Jazeera and I even loved him and Stephanie Ruhle when they had a show together on MSNBC in the morning, either I have change or he has. I can not stand the guy now, nothing can make me change the channel quicker than hearing, Hi I am Ali Velshi.

[quote]He's a Trump supporter. His big fear ? 'These illegals' are taking our job. I asked him how many illegals are lining up to take his job as a middle-school US history teacher ? He had no answer.

It seems like the entire election is coming down to whether you hate 'the illegals' more than you love democracy and stability. This is going to be a long month of hope and worry.

[quote]I even loved him and Stephanie Ruhle when they had a show together on MSNBC in the morning

They were at their best when pared together. Hosting their own shows - not so much,

I like Stephanie but she’s much better earlier in the day. She’s too perky for the 11th Hour. I miss Brian Williams hosting (not enough to watch him on Prime). Nicole would be good on the11th Hour.

[quote] like JoeScar?

I read that and thought, Hmm wasn't she suspended for fronting for an Israeli-based Soda Stream company?

Oh.

Totally agree that Steph would be better in the morning. She should be following Morning Joe. She'd keep me watching.......

R438, they're on salary and don't get overtime.

R445 Not true. Like any salaried job, you have a certain schedule. Work overtime - outside your normal work schedule - and you get compensated for it, somehow. Either overtime pay or extra PTO. Just because you work for a network, doesn't mean the network is exempt from local and federal labor laws.

Marc Caputo's now full-on solid silver head of hair is working for him. Hot.

R446, untrue. Tell that to a law firm associate who works 16 hours a day.

They are on CONTRACT.

R448 If that law associate is not being compensated for a 16 hour day, he/she needs to file a formal complaint with their local labor board. They will see how quickly those 16 hour days go away.

R449 And in that CONTRACT which they signed along with the network (representative), it is all spelled out on what is expected of them in their position / title; hours they will be working; and compensation (including overtime and working on scheduled days off) among many other details about the position. It's a mutual agreement between the two parties.

People who are salaried don't get paid overtime.

[quote]Executive, administrative, professional and outside sales employees: (as defined in Department of Labor regulations) and who are paid on a salary basis are exempt from both the minimum wage and overtime provisions of the FLSA.

Have any of these people trying to teach the rest of us about required overtime pay ever held a salaried job?

Do tell. The employer and year of employment and age of the employee might help the rest of us understand their way of thinking.

Also, too, how far they advanced in said job after demanding their overtime pay.

Has Mayor Pete gotten better looking as he ages ? Four years ago, he really did look like the 'What Me Worry ?' kid Alfred E Neuman on MAD Magazine. Now he looks like a sexy, handsome man.

Sigh & Moan Sanders-Townsend was in rare form today on The Weekend. Oh wait that was her everyday form.

Miss Capehart lauding the “professionalism” of Twitler reporter Dasha Burns is laughable. She lead the charge against Biden’s competence after her alleged “interview” of Uncle Joe way before anyone else even mentioned it. Her ongoing silence about the cognitive decline of Jabba the Trump speaks volumes. Just because she’s your Cosmo buddy, hunty, doesn’t mean she’s not a snake in the grass, nor a bothsider, basic bitch in the tradition of Kathy Turd. Do better, Uncle.

Jon Lemire and his wife are both liberal.

Can’t stand that Kathy Turd.

[quote]a bothsider, basic bitch

Steve Kornacki is another one.

I stopped watching Capehart about a year ago. I couldn't take much more of the constant verbal stumbling he does. I don't think he makes a good news show host. I do miss his talks with his Aunt Gloria though.

[quote]Has Mayor Pete gotten better looking as he ages ? Four years ago, he really did look like the 'What Me Worry ?' kid Alfred E Neuman on MAD Magazine. Now he looks like a sexy, handsome man.

Being a high profile public official + more awareness of appearance + maturing into his "daddy" stage = Increased hotness (and fuckability)

Still looks like a rat.

Dasha Burns reporting again from Trump rally for Chris Jansing. Not one mention of any cognitive concerns for Hair Furor. Her steadfast refusal to address this overt issue destroys her credibility, especially after she lead the charge against Joe Biden and his alleged “cognitive decline.”

For R458 This has been out for awhile, but I only just discovered it.

WOW ^^^^^^^^ !!!!!!!

I'm a relative latecomer to MSNBC and didn't start watching until around 2015 with Dump's horrific ascendancy.

What's the Keith Olbermann story - in brief? What did he represent at the network and why did he leave?

It's always the same with Keith. Wherever he goes, he doesn't merely burn bridges, he napalms them.

Okay, so Olbermann napalms every bridge he ever crossed, but does he make shit up?

If not, this is a hell of an indictment, suggesting Eve Harrington levels of pathology. If the MSNBC brass are aware of this, I have to assume they are waiting for her current contract to run out so they can quiet y cut her loose. At which point she’ll probably move over to Fox News, which will hire her to show they are willing to moderate slightly in the post-Trump era.

Gawd bless Nicolle’s heart for highlighting NYT article on Twitler’s cognitive decline. Peter Baker laying it out…

in July for some reason, I started listening to Olbermann's Countdown podcast. I forgot how funny he can be, even when he's on one of his usual rants. At 4 long podcasts a week, it's still a lot to digest.

But I dip in on Thursdays when he does a segment called Things I Promised Not To Tell. It typically involves a set of grievances he has with former employers and coworkers, it's often very inside, and fun. He doesn't hold back in his broadsides, but still seems to harbor some residual fondness for Tur, whose name comes up frequently enough. It's worth a listen.

^^ Okay, I just wrote this without having listened to the preceding link, fwiw.

Who was Joy's stylist tonight and why did they make her into a human Easter Egg ? Blond cropped hair, purple lipstick and that hideous blue tie-dyed top which did nothing for her. It's October - if you're going to change her into something, turn her into a human pumpkin - black lipstick and an orange top.

Mark Mazzetti still looking hot. He and Tim Heaphy, brothers from another mutha.

I think Mark and Tim are both but very different types.

I spy a grey blazer on Maddow tonight, forgoing the usual black one.

And a black silk charmeuse camisole! What's up tonight??

You're right, charmeuse! As fun to say as it is to wear.

Yes, different types, but I just see some facial/physical similarities, with a turn of the head. No? An eye of the beholder thang

wow

Tim Heaphy has no lips.

Maybe not, but I find Tim Heaphy incredibly hot.

We were right about Katy Tur.

I was never a huge fan of Tim Miller, but since he has taken over the daily YT podcast at the Bulwark, and has increasingly become a valued voice on MSNBC, he's grown on me. I appreciate his willingness to get pissed at the media for overlooking inequities and unfairness in coverage. Also his ability to highlight hypocrisy on the Right, as with these Silicon Valley billionaire bros who are now all backing and funding Trump

I think it's wonderful that Keith has unleashed all this dirt on Katy. Is it enough to ruin her career? I sure hope so. Though she's a nice looking lass. But still, total airhead borderline narcissist type. AVOID.

Lawrence O’Donnell and Rachael Maddow telling these long winded stories become boring, particularly when one already knows the point.

[quote]I think it's wonderful that Keith has unleashed all this dirt on Katy.

What are you talking about ? Links ?

R486 — Click the link at R464.

Part of the problem is that Keith was stupid enough to do it all though. Clearly Katy was a mess but because she was younger and pretty…he did it all for her and then she dumped him when she no longer needed him.

Jose whatshisname is a terrible interviewer. He asked a guy whose son is a hostage in the middle east how he keeps going.

Where is this idea that Katy Tur is “good-looking” coming from? Her face is very bird-like. She looks like she has some kind of genetic mutation.

I follow Tony Dokoupil on Instagram(unfortunately he never posts shirtless).

Katy pops up from time to time on his feed, and she comes across as the opposite of her persona on TV-she’s giggly, smiling, relaxed, happy looking, not dour and annoyed.

For those who don't know, KO has also been involved with Laura Ingraham, (before KT), and Olivia Nuzzi (after KT).

What I'm curious about is how did these relationships start. I'm especially curious about his relationship with Ingraham.

KO apparently has a type. Republicans.

R492 My understanding is their relationship consisted of 3 dates in 1998. Ingraham pursued him, she invited him for dinner at her apt, ostensibly to watch some political event on tv. She prepared steaks. He eventually cut it off because he couldn't take her lame unfunny attempts at humor.

Was there some kind of scandal when KO left MSNBC?

Laura Ingraham eats snatch.

R496 Only fair, to compensate for the fact brother doesn't.

Ann Coulter jealous she wasn't on the receiving end.

Katie Phang subbing for Joy tonight. Is it just me or has she lost weight? She looks much thinner lately than she usually does.

Re: Laura Ingraham. Seriously, I don't think she's a dyke. I suspect she has deep-seated daddy issues, and possibly into weird kink for the few males she trusted enough to tell. She's bitter and angry.

As a child, she was probably either molested by her father, or not but wanted to be. I read some article interview with gay brother Curtis and the dad sounded like a Nazi-loving sick fuck. (Or a typical Fox viewer??)

T’ anawhoseme Coates’ arrogance is off the charts. He would have us believe that he is now an expert on the Middle East after spending two confirmation bias weeks in Israel. Pathetic, but worse that he can dismiss Black Israeli soldiers as “nominally Black” because they dared to question his intentions in a war zone. I sincerely doubt that Ms. Coates mentions the 200,000 Black Israelis he so casually consigns to extermination in his opus to Hamas/Hizbollah. Old trick trying to define who is actually Black. Just like the current job being done by Trump surrogates on Kamala is so classy. Undermine WOC much, charlatan? Of course this hate promotion tour stop was a hate fiesta with Alex “I’ve got Jewish friends” Wagner. Keep up the Goebbels tactics, Rashida, you’ll eventually get enough Jews killed to satisfy your bloodlust.

R499 There's a good scene in the American Crime Story : Impeachment series (minute 3:35) where Ann Coulter accompanies George Conway to a house party at Laura Ingraham's, George has a crush on Laura and when Ann informs him that Laura is a lesbian, he replies,

"No she's not, she dated Dinesh DeSouza".

[quote] "No she's not, she dated Dinesh DeSouza".

That should be the standard response when any proper young lady is accused of having lesbian tendencies.

Uggghh. Ms. Glaude and her whine. I couldn’t imagine sitting in a classroom listening to this guy. Exhausting.

Coates needs to be called out. Supporting terrorists over Jews.

Whenever Eddie Glaude is on his soapbox on one of these shows, I can’t help but think of the whole op-ed he wrote in 2016 saying why he couldn’t vote for Hillary.

Which he has never apologized for.

He's too self-righteous to apologize.

The Sheriff in Florida that Katy Tur just interviewed said he feels safe being on the top floor of the building he's in. He better hope the roof doesn't blow off!

Actress Yvette Nicole Brown would regularly read Glaude for filth on Twitter, but then he blocked her.

I love her even more, r509!

She looks for fights where there are none

I don't follow her but a lot of people will never forgive Glaude for that column. I remember his crying over the Supreme Court decision to eliminate preferences on the basis of color in education. Oh dear, being admitted on merit. Horrors, what is the world coming to? I'm all in favor of getting rid of legacies, too.

R512 I find him fairly easy to ignore, but when he switches into that half-whisper voice, and attempts to wax poetic, I have to hit mute.

Jess Kirsch is so excited reporting to Alex Wagner from the parking garage in the hurricane. Betcha he's aroused right now - wish he'd fuck me.

Why is it okay for Jesse Kirsch to be hanging out in a parking garage in the middle of the hurricane in Sarasota, but everyone else needed to evacuate?

I want to eat Jesse Kirsch’s ass.

He's a bit busy right now, r516.

Is Jesse Jewish?

I just looked up Jesse Kirsch and he is married to a woman. I am shocked.

Sam Brock is so tall. I love that Cable News puts their hottest guys in the middle of hurricanes so they get wet.

Isn't it interesting that 3 of the most well known openly gay black news personalities are all married to white men: Johnathan Capehart, Eugene Daniels, and Don Lemon. What's up with that? 🤔

I switched over to CBS News coverage of Milton to find their on-the-ground reporter in Atlantic Daytona Beach for some reason - this was before it had even made land. But it was stormy even then, and he looked interesting wet, though largely covered up. It turns out he's a big chunky gay named Tom Hanson - new to me. Cleans up rather nicely.

[quote]Isn't it interesting that 3 of the most well known openly gay black news personalities are all married to white men: Johnathan Capehart, Eugene Daniels, and Don Lemon. What's up with that? 🤔

Its an outrage!!! Gay marriage was legalized, but interracial gay marriages are a step too far. There should be nationwide campaign to ban the practice and revoke the legal status of gays currently in interracial relationships. The country will have no future as long as it tolerates such an abomination!

But seriously.....

Maybe they all found the person they loved regardless of racial/ethnic background and don't give a damn what others think or say about it.

[quote]I just looked up Jesse Kirsch and he is married to a woman. I am shocked.

Not half as shocked as the woman he married. I'm sure he was asked a milllion times, "Are you sure you're not gay ?"

I'd love to spend a night with that guy.

R521, they're self-hating.

Bill Karins is a hot weather-man. I love his arrogance - I'd gladly kneel in front of him and lick his balls.

Where is Morgan Chesky and his tight wet black tee shirt???

R526 Agree with all of that, except the arrogance part. He comes across as undeservedly modest for an alpha to me.

Anyone who thinks Bill Karins is an alpha never saw the way Joe and Mika use to belittle him on Morning Joe around five years ago. It was so bad I considered complaining to MSNBC but I thought if he wasn't going to do something about it would my 2 cent even be noticed. Mika loved to belittle him it made her feel manly. Not sure what I expected him to do, I guess hit back a little but he just took it day after day after day. Eventually Joe and Mika stopped belittling Bill and he appears on Morning Joe much less than he use to but it was really disturbing how they treated him.

R529 Strange. What exactly did they go after him for, bad forecasting?

Someone upthread brought up Ta-Nehisi Coates. I have come full circle on him. I support reparations for poverty-level adult Blacks who can prove a tie to slavery and verify their financial status for five years. The payment should be no more than 50k, which is enough for anyone to put their life in order. No windfalls for middle class people I do not care a fig for psychic harm or the storekeeper who follow you around. Everyone has to put up with bullshit. I think statutes of limitation should be tolled for descendants of victims who suffered specific harms like lynching or race riots. If Coates has a problem with a state that was intended as a refuge for Jews, I expect him to have an equal problem with countries where the official religion is Islam. If he doesn't, I'm tuning him out. Has he been on Joy Reid's program yet? I would like to be warned in advance.

R521 How do we know they're self-hating unless they've said it themselves? Are people in interracial marriages other than Black/White self-haters, too? I'm trying to understand this.

R530, it has been at least five years I don't really remember the specifics, they just went after him the way bullies go after people. One of them would introduce Bill and the other one would make some snide remark belittling Bill. I just remember thinking how cruel it was and why the hell didn't someone put a stop to it and maybe they did. It stopped rather abruptly. I wanted Bill to counter attack but he just took it with a smile and went on with his forecast.

Am I the only one who remembers this?

r521 There aren't that many rich black gay men to date. Most people want to date/partner with someone of their income/class/education.

I remember he finally put Joe in check before he seemed to disappear from their “show” for a lengthy period. Joe Scarborough is an asshole and a blowhard. Unwatchable.

R521 Which one of the three, if any, is serving up the BBC?

[quote] Which one of the three, if any, is serving up the BBC?

None of them are serving the BBC. Jonathan Capehart and Eugene Daniels are on MSNBC, and Don Lemon used to be on CNN.

Barack Obama speech

I remember buying diapers, I remember changing diapers, you think Donald Trump has ever changed a diaper?

Someone in the audience yells out, yeah his own.

I would have yelled out: Not even his own!

I have seen Jonathan giving PBS.

Leave your face alone, Steph! You’re a beautiful woman, you’re going to end up looking like a circus freak!

Mika this morning called Trump "an aging bullshit artist."

I think NBC S&P has loosened up before the election. But they did censor Governor Josh about Trump SHIT TALKING.

[quote] I think NBC S&P has loosened up before the election. But they did censor Governor Josh about Trump SHIT TALKING.

Cable networks like MSNBC can get away with language that the broadcast networks like NBC can't because cable networks aren't subject to FCC regulations on indecency. They can say the "seven dirty words" without risk of being fined.

Ari is now dying his hair! What a mistake. And way too black, too. I always like the little gray patch on top.

Again, with the "supposed" undecided voters on MJ. I had to turn it off before the segment even started. Can't put up with these jerks before breakfast. Or ever.

Why they keep publicizing these idiots is beyond me.

And idiots they are. Pick one or the other - they are distinctly different candidates. Or is that they like feeling that they have some power over the election? Is it because they like being. on TV? This is too critical for these people to play the games they are playing.

This is a stark choice; anyone that is UNDECIDED at this point is full of shit. Stop elevating these idiots as if they have something worthwhile to say, or something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion.

And MJ needs to do more than sadly shake their heads about these idiots. [bold]Call them out or stop elevating them.[/bold]

MJ is NOT helping.

I'm shocked that Joe and Mika put up with these segments. If MJ producers insist on having those idiots interviewed, then Joe and Mika should do the segment and really challenge those undecided morons and expose their cluelessness.

Like it or not the idiot "undecided" voters are the ones who are going to determine the outcome of this election. Man that is scary.

[R 549] if they really are

If only Obama had run against Trump.

In Trump's head, he did.

Rachel looked so gamin!

R551, Obama is barred by the Constitution.

How did FDR get to run (and win) 4 times?

r555 You must be a non-American. They changed the constitution after FDR so that presidents can only run 2 times.

Thanks, r556. And I am ashamedly an American and one who is old enough to have known better.

[quote] [R551], Obama is barred by the Constitution.

I know. My post was a counterfactual. If Hillary had gotten the nomination in '08, leaving Obama to run against Trump in another cycle.

Stop buying into Trumps norm breaking.

The Amendment is written for Presidents who do not take an administration off to mount a second insurrection and sedition. Prior to Trump, every one-term president retired. They weren't psychos who "needed to fight like hell" for a position they legally lost.

But then there's our uncompromisin', enterprisin', anything but tranquilizin', STFU Trump!

[quote] Obama is barred by the Constitution.

Not Michelle. Polling in 2023 showed that she would walk away with it, not even close. I respect that she is true to herself, but she knows how catastrophic Trump 2.0 would be. Wish she was more visible since the convention. She could move margins in Kamala's favor.

R560

Who exactly would she move? I don't deny that she is magnetic, but I'm not sure that Michelle the black woman is going to change the minds of young black males that are planning to vote for Trump rather than Kamala Harris, a black woman.

No matter how idealistic we want to be about Harris being the better candidate in every way - the bottom line is that Trump must not win. Michelle won't help there.

The problem - such as it is - is young white men without college degrees and white woman, (Nobody knows what the hell is going on with white women.) I don't understand how Michelle helps with either group.

Or better said, the problems are racism first and misogyny second.

Michelle Obama will never run for President, she hates politics but if she was to run she would electrify both those for and against her. It would mobilize the right against her just as much as it would mobilize Democrats. There would be questions of was she qualified, does she know the issues, would she just be a puppet for Barack to run the country. I would vote for her but I only vote for Democrats, would she move the undecided?

I am sick of hearing about the undecided registered voters. If these nitwit people can’t make a decision by now, let them sit at home. The two prime presidential tickets have stark differences. Focus on turnout of the base voters, plus those Democrats less motivated to take the time to go and vote.

[quote] I am sick of hearing about the undecided registered voters. If these nitwit people can’t make a decision by now, let them sit at home.

I suspect most of them will. Or at least leave their presidential ballot blank.

What R563 said.

Considering how stupid the "undecideds" are, I'm glad we don't have the Australian system of charging people a fine if they don't vote. I think it's around $45. That would bring in a lot more of the stupids.

Trying to compile a list of reasons you would vote for Trump :

- You're mentally challenged. (stupid, mentally disordered or delusional)

- You're uninformed, misinformed, disinformed. (not an excuse in 2024)

- You're evil.

All other reasons - like being a MAGA cultist, a tribal Republican, a craven self-interested crypto bro, a white supremacist, an evangelical, or christian nationalist - can be based on some combination of these three.

Is it possible that these can account for 70+ million American voters?

In Trump's disastrous Detroit Economic Club speech he talked about 1000% tariffs and how much money they will bring into the US. I know there's a difference of opinion, but I really think he still has no idea how tariffs work. If he is not an idiot on the subject, he must believe that his audience is.

r568, he was just misdirecting from the stench radiating from his ass.

But Trump doesn't care. Is the October Surprise going to be a load of shit dropped on national TV?

Why does MSNBC keep pushing former Trump / Pence employee Olivia Troye on us ? Are they trying to launch her into her own talk show on the network ? She looks like the bride of Chuckie with that wonky left eye. Please make her go away.

R570

Because she's a Republican insider that has turned on Trump.

R570, she is also a witness in the 1/6 indictment.

She has the dirt in Pence.

Is Jonathan Capehart a DataLounger? He said “Sure Jan” after playing a clip of JD Vance lying about something.

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of Stephanie Gresham. Wasn't she at the convention? She's got all the deep deep dirt on Trump, and Melania as well.

I thought there was some controversy over Gresham's credibility over the past few years ? I think a lot of stuff she said about Melania was debunked.

Debunked by *who*, r575?

R576 The mainstream media who did fact checking on her book - there was a lot they couldn't verify independently (many of her coworkers had different memories of some events she wrote about in her memoir).

To her credit, Grisham now lives in a farm somewhere in the midwest and devotes most of her time to animal rescue.

I absolutely despised her when she was Press Secretary for Trump. But I've softened since the Trump spell seemed to break for her. I believe every story she has since told, and I believe she's genuinely contrite.

She seems like the easily manipulable type who invited lots of abusers into her life, and is finally starting to take some control.

JMart also makes a recommendation where she could go left ... & break from Biden (ala HHH's 9/30/68 break from LBJ's Vietnam policy):

[quote] It’s a far more delicate matter, but she should consider breaking with President Joe Biden on the Middle East. High-level Democrats in Michigan are growing more alarmed because Israel’s incursion into Lebanon has made this a much more personal issue there for Arab Muslims and Christians alike who have relatives in Lebanon.

[quote] If conveying to them that, unlike Biden, she’ll halt the weapons flow to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is critical to Michigan and consistent with her own expressed values, why wouldn’t she do it?

Don’t take my word for it, just listen to what Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.), a survivor of more than one difficult race there, told me over the summer. “Be who you are,” Peters said of Harris and the Middle East, and if you have those views “be clear about” them.

Gresham was one of the finalists for 'The View' when McCain left. Supposedly, she didn't test well with audiences - so Alyssa got the job.

I don't remember it that way, r577. The only criticism I remember came from Team Melania.

Also, r577, who were the co-workers who had differing memories?

IIRC, Alyssa Farrah Griffin was one and said so on 'The View'.

Thanks, r583. I wonder what the different accounts were. At least Gresham didn't lie to us...since she never gave a press conference.

It was the first season Griffin was on The View and Gresham was a guest promoting something (can't recall what). As she was going on and on , she made a dig at Alyssa and remarked "I know you don't remember certain things the way I do of what went on..." AFG didn't take the bait, just let her babble on.

Grisham appears frequently on CNN.

[quote] Grisham appears frequently on CNN.

Oh good to know. Is she an effective Trump debunker?

^^More so with Melania.

How rich that Eddie Glaude is prospectively immunizing Black men from any liability for a Trump win. Eddie Glaude who didn't vote for Hillary.

Too many abused/neglected animal commericals. My heart sinks everytime one comes on.

I know, r590!!

Between the abused animals and the sick and dying children, it's really become impossible for me to watch MSNBC anymore. I long for the days of those light-hearted Jardiance commercials....

R591 They must be effective because they also seem to be the longest ads. As non-profits do they get a special rate?

[quote]How rich that Eddie Glaude is prospectively immunizing Black men from any liability for a Trump win. Eddie Glaude who didn't vote for Hillary.

He and Sunny Hostin got the memo from Howard University - NO BLAMING THE 30% OF BLACK MEN for not supporting Harris

It's medically induced coma time. Wake me up in December, depending on the outcome.

I like a nice sprinkling oF Bobbie Brown, Laura Geller and Marie Osmand commercials to counter gllom and doom And let's no forget the 70s hunks--Joe Namath and Tom Selleck--providing eye candy as they plug worthless shit.

What's with the strange little girl bottling water in the Volkswagen commercial?

Holy shit Kamala is playing a clip of Dump at the Erie rally!

Her smile is *so* infectious.

r591, isn't Caleb recently diagnosed with lung cancer from decades of cigar smoking? Isn't he like 50 now?

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