Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, Part II

Link to part one

So are they winning this or nah?

Just vote. And convince everyone else to do the same

Ready to pay higher taxes for being evil, child free gays DL? If so, vote for Trump/Vance.

"Unearthed footage: JD Vance says adults without children should have their taxes raised because we should "punish the things that we think are bad""

Fuck that phony prick!

How about his asshole benefactor pays HIS FAIR SHARE OF TAXES? No more write offs, no more hedge fund loopholes, no more carry a is, no more “pass through” entities!

That would end a lot of bullshit and erase the national debt.

When can I see them win?

They will squeak by in the Electoral College, after a few days of drama. Sound familiar?

Usha defended that BS by saying he only thinks it’s bad if you don’t try to have kids! So…when filing taxes attach a hetro sex tape or proof of a miscarriage or proof that you’re shooting blanks? It’s completely infeasible, just like mass deporting 20 million people. That doesn’t matter because the intent is only to spread hatred. It’s says a lot about Vance’s own mental state. He’s a deeply damaged little man with mommy issues.

[quote] JD Vance says adults without children should have their taxes raised

Childless people pay taxes to support schools for other people's kids. We already pay enough.

[quote] ...we should "punish the things that we think are bad""

Walz should be able to destroy Vance with his little finger during the debate.

I’d think so. But Harris did the same to trump and he’s still got support

If Kamala/Tim wins, I'll be crying my eyes out like I did when Obama/Joe won.

You’re a Mary Matlin.

Las Vegas rally. Crowd is pumped.

Kamala Harris’ L.A. Fundraiser Pulls In More Than $28 Million:

One of my friends is at that Vegas rally. She was excited and the place looked packed from the photos she posted.

I saw her. She’s fipping you the finger in the video.

Nevada going BLUE!

Kamalaha Harrisch!

Vegas is not going back!

So incredibly funny and clever, R22.

Bret Fucking Stephens again :

Bret: Now that I think about it, here’s what she should also say: that she’d appoint Stanley McChrystal, the retired general who just endorsed her in a Times guest essay, as secretary of Homeland Security, and James Stavridis, the retired admiral and NATO commander, as director of central intelligence, and retired admiral Bill McRaven as secretary of defense. With that, she could add one more New York state vote — namely, mine — to her tally.

Who does this fucker think he is? His list of demands is so specific and ridiculous and not in Harris' best interests. It really bothers me that this guy thinks his one vote should allow him to appoint a cabinet of his choosing.

Like every loser you know, he has "a concept of a plan" that will succeed, yet never materializes.

"GOP Rep. Greg Murphy admits that Trump doesn't have a "fully fleshed out" healthcare plan (He's been campaigning for 9 years and was president for four of them!)"

Straight from the Demon Doll's mouth. The GOP is a CULT.

"This is un-American. Bob Woodward's 2020 recording reveals Jared Kushner admitting that Trump transformed the GOP into an obey-first cult. A traitor's confession of what we already knew: the Republican party is forever changed under Trump's reign. This clip is a must-see!"

^^^

Five paragraphs about how horrible he is.

Six (mostly complimentary) paragraphs in favor of her.

Thirteen more paragraphs about him.

R29 - Yeah, the media is addicted - they can't quit him. What will the do when he eventually expires (the SOONER the better) - nothing to spin about the ORANGE Ringmaster when he loses but they will fabricate shit just to keep the clicks coming.

When I saw that tepid endorsement of Kamala this morning, I wrote in the Comment section, "Now? Now you want to say this, NYT? Where were you the last six months when you've been "sane-washing" all his speeches and policies?

"Too little, too late, NYT. I've already cancelled my subscription."

I imagine they won't keep that in the Comments section long.

[quote]Five paragraphs about how horrible he is.

[quote]Thirteen more paragraphs about him.

It's a devastating charge-sheet about any human being, let alone a Presidential nominee. However when I read the few pallid items of let's-be-fair-about-this praise I groaned. You just know that The Felon is going to quote how the NYT praised him to the skies at his next demented rally.

I’m going to buy a bottle of Champagne for election night and hope I get to pop it.

Whether in celebration or to numb the pain, make a night of it, R33.

There aren’t going to be any answers on Election night.

Sorta kinda factchecking on Tuesday night

As if we can trust CR codes! Nope, I have never scanned one onto my phone and never will.

I wouldn’t trust any CR code

Who is that?

Dollface

There's Coach Walz, all-around amazing man, and then there's this hateful loser.

"Unearthed audio: JD Vance says he agrees that “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female” is to help raise grandchildren and that helping raise children is a “weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman”"

re: R40

[quote]Tim Walz, surrounded by children, was caught on tape holding and caressing a pussy. Now that's weird. Everybody knows that's weird. You know it and I know it!

This is kinda unique

‘Veep’ Reunion Fundraiser Brings in $735K for Harris-Walz:

I always have a nice botte of champagne chilling on erection night.

PoliticsKamala Harris Says ‘We Need To Legalize’ Marijuana For First Time As Democratic Presidential Nominee

“I just feel strongly, people should not be going to jail for smoking weed,” she said in an interview with the All the Smoke podcast that was released on Monday. “And we know historically what that has meant and who has gone to jail.”

Are we going to have a separate thread for tonight's match-up between The Coach and The Couchfucker?

Yes there already is a thread about the debate and I expect 4 more to pop up.

R35 it could take weeks or months for all the court business , that will surely come, to play out.

Dollfaces. Tim Walz and dog Scout.

No it won’t. All will conclude before Jan. 20.

[quote]I'm wondering what the chances are that Kamala will appear on SNL before the election. I think she and Tim should both try to make time to do it, if only to stand next to Maya and Jim for a few seconds.

I asked the above question in the previous thread. I guess this is my answer:

Lorne is like Norman Lear. He'll die, it will be in the news for 5 minutes, he's he totally forgotten in a week and the show will still suck.

Lorne looks like death warmed over in that Hollywood Reporter story.

If Kamala wins, I wouldn't be surprised if she makes a cameo on SNL in December/maybe the last show before SNL goes into holiday hiatus.

Kamala on All The Smoke podcast. It's a sports podcast but the conversation is not about sports.

R51 “ No it won’t”

Yes it could take months or weeks to decide this election And Jan qualifies both under months and weeks,

Don’t be a dolt—some of us understand the time limits in the Constitution. Play Henny Penny somewhere we else.

Murdoch rag confirms the trend line.

Here is Trump mocking our troops who received traumatic brain injuries, while he was Commander in Chief.

"Reporter: Iran launched ballistic missiles when you were president that gave US troops traumatic brain injuries

Trump: Injured. What does injured mean? It means they had a headache"

"On Oct. 2, Gov. Walz will kick off a bus tour through Central Pennsylvania, with stops in Harrisburg, Reading, and York, where the Governor will be joined by York native Sen. John Fetterman."

Yes! I knew they were keeping him under wraps until the debate was over. Get him out there and get him onto podcasts with a young male audience and onto podcasts with an older white female audience. He was great in the Ezra Klein podcast, more of that is needed.

^^^

Trump Bails on ’60 Minutes’ Interview:

^^^

I hope they did ask to fact check verify live. Why should they allow themselves to be a pawn in his campaign of misinformation. Nip lies in the bud!

Is there a debate thread?

Here, R69

Oh.

"Holy cow—a new NY Times puff piece for Trump/Vance got CAUGHT WITH ITS PANTS DOWN pre-loading a debate performance oped piece into the NYT system a full week before the Vp debate!

.@DougJBalloon couldn’t have written it better."

And it was posted to Twitter halfway through the debate, r71.

[quote]CAUGHT WITH ITS PANTS DOWN

Brilliant catch, NYT a flagrant laughing-stock. This after its so judicious and sober ponderings finally in favour of Harris. By all means pull up your tragic pants now, NYT, we've seen all we need to see, forever.

Now, it's buried inside an article about numerous takes on the debate. They truly are becoming a laughing stock.

Griftin'! Griftin'! Griftin' the night away, ohhhhhh! Griftin'! Griftin'!

"So, Donald Trump has started a GoFundMe page for “Hurricane Victims.” It had a $1 million dollar goal. It’s at over $3.5 million already. Oh, he promises a whopping 3% will go to the intended recipients.

When does it stop? If we don’t win the election and get a new AG….never."

"Dive into hard core MAGA social media. A lot of them hated Vance’s debate. They wanted Vance to expose Harris as the devil.

Instead he was on a personal rehabilitation campaign aimed at 2028. He wanted to become the Great White Hope of the .@DouthatNYT crowd and the wealthy donors who know which fork to pick up.

Looking at Vance’s history, it should shock no one he put his own ambitions first."

GoFundMe also takes a cut of the donations. I hope some journalist worth their salt does a good story on that GoFundMe. But, I doubt anyone will.

It pisses me off how much the mainstream media doesn't report on a lot of Trump's bullshit.

[quote]"Dive into hard core MAGA social media. A lot of them hated Vance’s debate. They wanted Vance to expose Harris as the devil.

Vance was the worst possible VP pick. Dump’s own voters hate him, and he has zero appeal to anyone else.

Trump's supporters gave 3.5 millions to his gofundme. I thought they were all economically anxious and leaving back eggs in the store.

Seriously, his mental decline is worse than Biden's, yet the media is not talking about it. He even confuses Iran with Iraq.

Trump couldn't locate Iran or Iraq on a map-before the dementia set in. He'd probably point to France or Germany.

R78 although a better VP choice than Harris would have been. And just a few weeks ago some or more than some on DL were posting 24/7 that they wanted her passed over and a white person on the top of the ticket after Biden dropped out.

Called the run of the Dem DL racists

R82, that’s a pretty run of the mill load of crap. No one who wanted another candidate would have objected to Michelle Obama. Who you may have noticed is not a white person.

Kamala Harris has run a good campaign, eluding many of the errors others have made when running against Trump. But she is unlikely to have ever won the nomination in a competitive field.

Grandpa bottom looked like a fool last night.

[quote]Vance was the worst possible VP pick.

Fuck you!

Walz was the best possible VP pick!

Vance came off like a slithery slimy used car salesman

The voters whom the Dems forgot. " We have to do a better job," is their only response to outreach, but no action.

R83 bullshit. One after another on DL was complaining about Harris. You as I remember were one of them. We were overrun with anti Harris trolls who thought passing over a black female vp to pick a white was seen as solid logic here. True cluelessness was what it was.

And absolutely no one on DL was seriously suggesting Michelle Obama to replace Biden.

R88, you mean idiots?

Exactly, R90. Podbro incels who are pissed they can't get laid, totally oblivious that mimicing podbros is why they can't get laid.

Trump/Vance insinuate they will FORCE those bitches to fuck them so they're all in on Dump's "agenda".

[quote][R88], you mean idiots?

Those whom you call idiots might just be the difference in the election. Just as Hillary ignored the great Lakes States, which ultimately led to her defeat, The Dems can blame themselves for ignoring the male vote should they lose this one.

[quote]Those whom you call idiots might just be the difference in the election.

then fuck them. they are terrible people, I don't care if they are young and ignorant. I was young and ignorant at one point and NEVER thought trump was anything but a greasy used-car salesman.

[quote]The Dems can blame themselves for ignoring the male vote should they lose this one.

nope, not ignoring them, I'm TELLING them, YOU'RE. AN.IDIOT!

you feed the beast by even trying to justify their crying mewling nonsense. you can go fuck yourself to while your at it

JD is a people person

Is that who that was, r95?

He was hilarious and creepy all at once

R80 The media has mostly treated Trump with kid gloves since 2015. In 2016, when Trump made fun and mocked the disabled reporter Serge Kovaleski, they reported on it. But, they didn't hammer down on it enough.

It still pisses me off how months ago the mainstream media was all over Biden's cognitive decline/aging, yet they don't do cover Trump's cognitive decline as much.

Kamala did great today. In Georgia talking about each family getting $700.00. That will really push her over the top there.

And I hate that, he’s a lunatic

new ad

Damn. That ad made me mist up.

Haaa# #LiarLiarVanceOnFire is trending on TwiiterX

I hope it sticks

[quote]Kamala did great today. In Georgia talking about each family getting $700.00. That will really push her over the top there.

I hope so. The cult has already started its fuckery there to set up a case for disputing the outcome.

[quote]nope, not ignoring them, I'm TELLING them, YOU'RE. AN.IDIOT! you feed the beast by even trying to justify their crying mewling nonsense. you can go fuck yourself to while your at it

And I thought all of the illiterates were MAGAts. Silly me.

Yesterday, Vice President Harris was serving food to hurricane victims. Here's one thing on her schedule for today:

"ALERT: VP Harris will be joined by Liz Cheney for campaign event today in Wisconsin"

She gets around

Yes, she needs to. Joe is holding down the fort while Kamala and Tim beat feet campaigning.

Tim started a bus tour in Pennsylvania yesterday. Fetterman is joining him for a few stops and do is Shapiro, from what I recall.

So stop saying they’re not working to win PA

Doug is a big believer in equal rights. And lefts.

I predict that Kamala will be president for two terms.

GO, PA! Go, Harris/Walz!

From your lips to god's ear r110.

The Boss endorses Kamala:

The only reason to vote for these two is they are not Trump and Vance. Such mediocrities. They are buffoons. Total idiots who you wouldn't want on a school board. You must all be morons and only voting for them because they are Democrats. But they are at bottom idiots. Kamela letting in so many millions at the border and giving all this free housing and education has been one of the great governmental financial catastrophes of recent times. She really sucks and you are only in thrall to her because she is a woman of color. I thought DLers could see through that. You should all join White Fraus for Kamela.

And thank you Kamela for squeezing all the money you could out of FEMA for criminals oh so sorry asylum seekers(HA!) so there is so little left. for American citizens who paid into all this money.

It is so amazing that these very very rich Democrats support this but won't bring these people into their neighborhoods or onto their vast land holdings and don't give huge chunks of their fortunes to these people. It is such bullshit. A lot of young people of color are seeing this and they are not as stupid as the white frau brigade. I was talking to a white friend of mine last night. He is married to a black woman. He is shocked by all the young black and hispanic men who are against Kamela. I thought to myself 'Duh.' They will vote for Trump which I would never do in a million years. But they are young and don't really know him. But they know inflation and the immigration crisis. It hits them in the hard.

'it hits them hard' I first wanted to say 'in the face' which it would to any sentient being.

and yet trump likes playing his songs

Thank you for sharing, r114/r115.

Next time, call before you drop in R114 / R115

I ignored two people the night Biden dropped out because they were posting anti Kamala nonsense. I’ve never ignored anyone else. R114/115 are not visible to me so this person has been trolling for several months now.

I blocked that poster a LONG time ago

The video of the endorsement referenced at R113

[quote] "ALERT: VP Harris will be joined by Liz Cheney for campaign event today in Wisconsin"

And Datalounge's favorite boyfriend is campaigning for both Harris and Colin Alred

I'm awesome.

Barb is like a Tracey Ullman character!

Did anyone else notice R114 and R115 post their two partner from two different accounts?

How many "people" do you are you here, R114/R115? I'll bet you post and then W&W yourself often, then post agreement comments.

Judith Light can play Doug Emhoff's mom in a Kamala biopic.

Coalition. Everyone hates Donald.

"New on @MSNBC:

NBC News confirms Liz Cheney and ex-Trump White House aides Alyssa Farah Griffin, Cassidy Hutchinson, and Sarah Matthews will make the case against Trump's reelection in a fireside chat in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, next week."

Dang. If MontCo goes Harris then PA goes harris

While Trump whines and lies...

"Today, I met with federal, state, and local officials to receive an operational briefing around the needs of Florida communities in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

I also provided some updates of our own:

Yesterday, I approved 100% percent federal cost share for emergency response activities in FL, GA, NC, and TN.

This will cover the costs for the work to remove debris; surge additional first responders and search and rescue teams; set up shelters; and provide food and water.

.@USDA is on the ground to support farmers, ranchers, and small businesses impacted by the storm. And .@FEMA is knocking doors to register folks to receive financial assistance.

To date, more than $20 million in Individual Assistance has been provided to thousands of survivors who have been affected by Hurricane Helene, and FEMA has shipped over 9.3 million meals, over 11.2 million liters of water, 150 generators, and over 260,000 tarps to the region.

KAMALA CAUSED THE HURRICANE! SHE'S RUINING OUR COUNTRY!!!

"Jason Isbell, R.E.M.'s Stipe to hold free concert in Pittsburgh for Harris campaign"

How 'bout that jobs report?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Trae Crowder continues to nail it.

I'm feeling such positive energy today regarding Kamala's chances, thanks to a beautiful bouquet of news about the strike, jobs numbers, and that one encouraging Nevada poll. May every day of this final month be like this one.

I did a month ago

I love trae

Now the Trumpers don't have the strike and they're trying to say that the government is failing in North Carolina. They want tanks to swoop in and deliver aid.

Yeah, expensive tanks which famously destroy roads and everything else they tread on. There's a reason countries mostly use helicopters in these situations. You know, actual transport vehicles meant to send lots of shit to difficult to reach locations and rough terrain.

Which the government is doing as we type these things

Someone needs to remind the MAGAts that delivering aid is more than a photo op where several sets of paper towels are thrown into a crowd.

This is all projection as usual. Trump tried to withhold aid for blue states so he assumes that Biden would do the same. Trump is a cancer.

Talk about a home stretch – we have but a month to go now!

Ugh.

2024 election will be seen as the Year of the Courts not the Year of the Voters.

Off topic...

double chins!!!

Larry thinks he's immune from Trumpworld. His very first and last mistake in Maryland.

I’d applaud

Instagram for @stephenrhanna & @bretshuford at R150

I think I follow them on Insta 🤔

Sharing this here, too. Pretty encouraging video about the state of the race in North Carolina from people on the ground. And now I have a crush on 27 year old Drew Kromer.

CNN article about the tensions between the Harris and Biden camps. Nothing dramatic, just relatively minor stuff that's to be expected when the incumbent's VP is running for president and the incumbent is not. Totally understandable, too – she wants a break with some parts of his legacy in order to draw a contrast, and he doesn't want his administration to be poo-pooed on his way out. And by his VP, no less.

Obviously these internal drama pieces will be much more interesting once the election is over and we can all unclench.

[quote]Top aides to Kamala Harris are heading into the final month of the 2024 presidential race still wrestling with how much distance she can credibly claim from Joe Biden as she looks for more ways to weave in breaks with him on the campaign trail. But she keeps getting pulled back to his side for official business at the White House — and he keeps injecting himself into the conversation.

[quote]Neither aides in the Harris campaign nor the Biden White House would commit to another joint campaign event between now and the election. But no one on the vice president’s team is upset that Biden is headed to spend a whole week of October overseas on a non-pressing diplomatic trip to Germany and Angola. Some wish he’d go away for longer.

Anyone from PA? Would Biden help her or hurt her if they did joint appearances in Scranton and Pittsburgh? I used to think he'd be a good surrogate in PA. Biden, Shapiro, Fetterman and Walz camped in PA for most of October. Now, I'm not so sure.

People want to move on from Biden. Shapiro and Fetterman would help.

likely not hurt but it would help more to have Shaprio or someone like him

MONDAY: Harris's 60 Minutes interview airs.

TUESDAY: Harris speaks to The View, The Howard Stern Show, and The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY: Harris campaigns in Nevada and participates in a Univision Town Hall.

FRIDAY: Harris campaigns in Arizona.

[quote] Harris Will Appear in a Whirlwind of Interviews, Most of Them Friendly

Good old NYT! Still salty that she won't sit down with them and allow them to twist her words into an October surprise headline. They have listed each appearance and gone to great lengths to prove that it the interview is pro Harris.

Meanwhile Trump, who wouldn't go on CBS , will speak only to his echo chamber and has threatened to sue/imprison/murder journalists from the NYT gets:

[quote] Elon Musk made a spirited appearance at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania.

and

[quote] Trump’s Return to Scene of Attack Was a Do-Over in More Ways Than One

How can they not see why she's avoiding them?

r160 And then only three weeks of campaigning left after that!

I feel like this campaign is in slow motion. Nobody's saying or doing anything to move the needle. It's just the same old same old. (Granted, am too much of a news junkie so naturally everything I see or read is a repeat of the same thing on a daily basis.) I guess it's the lack of momentum or the meandering pace of the momentum. I'm still fairly certain she will win but I find this gridlock really unnerving.

[quote]"Elon Musk made a spirited appearance at Donald Trump’s rally..."

Impossible to make a parallel, because Kamala's high-profile supporters are sane. But just imagine someone on stage with her acting as Musk did. That someone would assuredly not be described as 'spirited.' They'd be used as clear evidence that Harris's judgement is unsound, and so questionable at this perilous time for the world (fill in continued head-shaking for six more paragraphs).

[quote]I feel like this campaign is in slow motion. Nobody's saying or doing anything to move the needle.

It will come down to last minute turnout among blacks who were thinking of not voting, and suburban women who lean Republican but might decide to vote D when they get the ballot in front of them. Everyone else’s mind has been made up for a long time.

This time a month from now, the race might already be called for Kamala and we might be rid of Trump forever! God, I wish so much for that sweet reality to come true. I felt such relief when the race was called for Biden – though I couldn't fully unclench until he was actually sworn in – but something tells me I'll feel triple that relief this time around. Fuck it, quadruple the relief, even. I'll be in a puddle of joy, babbling in tongues, as you Marys plan her inauguration outfit.

R163 I agree with you. Especially in contrast to the enormous initial outpouring of support and enthusiasm. That seems like a year ago now.

R165, I believe that's why they've held back the Obamas since the convention. Can't overdo them. I'm sure there's a push strategy for the last two weeks or ten days, to create urgency. This is a hard one, because she's inching along but she's not breaking out.

You guys will kill me for staking the centre, but I feel like she needs to give a speech and adopt a message track for the suburbs and the swing states that says: this once, lend me your vote, if you don't feel like you want to give me your vote. I promise you, I will make every decision as President thinking first of the majority of Americans who sit in the center of politics. If you think I fail, take your vote back in 2028. But this time, on faith, vote for the country and break the spell of Trumpism so we can all move forward the damage Trump and his people are doing to America.

I just think she's got to reassure the center and undercut the soft Trump voters who I think are far greater in number than anyone acknowledges in the Republican polling, but who need a nudge.

Anyway, I just want this goddamn thing over with Harris as president.

R168 100%.

R168, I think Liz Cheney is part of the strategy to help with those “soft Republicans” who don’t want Trump but don’t think they can vote for a Democrat either.

I believe so but I had to laugh... I know Cheney has resting I am depressed face, but all the way through that appearance I was laughing so hard... so looked like she was doing a sack race in a barbed wire girdle.

Colin's tank under the see-through blue shirt at R123...

You need to learn to pace yourselves. We won’t know who won in Nov nor in Dec.

The courts will need to to have their day.

It’s a prediction.

R161 on the other hand, the EB endorsed her fully.

Montana speaks! ;)

…study by a pair of University of Montana scholars found that Mr. Trump’s speech complexity was significantly lower than that of the average president…

More fun tidbits in the free article^^

My god, the NYT just NOW noticing that Trump is old and deep in the throes of dementia! Give them a fucking Pulitzer.

NYT wrote a glowing report of the VEEP debate for Vance - a FULL WEEK in advance of the actual debate. I'm never reading them again

How could any of you keep reading that rag after they outed Valerie Plame for the Bush administration? They were beating the drum for the Iraq war.

R178 that’s not true at all. What is this glowing report?

I turn to NYT when I need really important information.

^ Made ya look.

Walz better start wearing a crop top.

r183 Can you imagine what a threat he would be if he were actually cool, rather than a complete doofus constantly doped up on ketamine?

The only decent billionaires are probably Marc Cuban and Bill Gates.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Uhhh, what about me, bitch?

Ok, Oprah you be on the list of decen billionaires. But, I just remembered that George Lucas is a billionaire.

J. B. Pritzker seems okay too

he's at least got a sense of humor about being a billionaire

Arthur Blank, the billionaire who co-founded Home Depot and owns the Atlanta Falcons, seemed like a decent guy. He held fundraisers for Biden.

^^^I mean to type "seems" not "seemed."

MacKenzie Scott seems to be a really decent person which is, probably, why Musk hates her.

I think all the good billionaires agree with me on issues and the bad billionaires don’t. It’s easy to figure out who the good guys and gals are in this world

I'm surprised Elon Musk signed The Giving Pledge. But, there is a chance he might not go through with giving 50% of his wealth away.

Walz was really good on Fox.

Victor Shi:

[quote] I really need everyone to understand how big Call Her Daddy/Alex Cooper is:

[quote]—Second-most popular podcast in the world; 5+ million downloads a week

[quote]—Most-listened to podcast among women ages 18-24

[quote]—Reaches a lot of people who are NOT political

[quote] So, yes, this matters & is huge.

These clips are good.

Interesting prediction.

Me, reading r196 “Alice Cooper has a podcast?”

Damn!!

Anybody else notice that the people screaming the loudest that Biden is too old are now screaming the loudest that Harris is mainly doing podcasts?

Can we win this???

Re: r205

Surely they think Trump is a heavyweight. A totally serious adult.

I hope, after she wins the election, she tells Andrea Mitchell to kiss her ass.

Andrea Mitchell is such a twat. I was flipping through the other morning (sick on the couch all week with covid), and she said something to the effect of how she talks to all these white men that won't vote for Harris. Now who the fuck is old crone talking to? Probably Republican friends of her husband, Ayn Rand devotee Alan Greenspan. STFU bitch!

Give me a fucking break. Hold Dump to the same standards. (Hint: they won’t.)

R201 Great news. When some Texas Republicans are getting tired of Trump's bullshit enough to vote for Kamala, in secret or otherwise, you're in trouble. Glad to hear the judge was also voting for Colin Allred over do-nothing, asshole Ted Cruz. The addition of "Republicans for Kamala Harris" broadens her coalition even more.

Please, get out the vote!

Andrea Mitchell is answering her own question. Trump doesn’t sit for serious interviews, he hasn’t offered any realistic policies, he’s promised violence, carnage, mass deportation and irresponsible tax cuts. Andrea wants to know why Kamala will not sit down for a grilling where she’s hit with gotcha questions. It doesn’t even warrant a response. Get a mirror bitch, you’ll see the answer.

And fuck the business community. A bunch of pricks, most of them nepo babies, who have robbed the working class blind. That obese orange 80 year old pile of shit is not a “heavyweight”, he’s a pushover for them.

He’s a chump

I agree with the article at R201. I think that may be what flips Florida.

Thanks for posting it.

Remember how in 2016 Trump couldn't get elected without doing interviews with Andrea Mitchell and other media elites? Oh wait....

r205 Someone on DL actually came at me last week for pointing out that Politico was right-wing. They keep shitting on Biden and Kamala at every turn.

R210 what is it about trump you would like to know that the media has not told you?

Is it the crook part, the convicted part, the perv part, the long list of women with charges part, his not paying taxes part, his trying to win the election unfairly, his being a draft dodger, or his courts losses? Or that he is a long time well know slezball?

And lastly where do you get your information from if you are not fully aware of Donald Trump after all these fucking decades ?

60 Minutes Interview

r219, that is nonsense

[quote] NEW: Tim Walz will appear on the SmartLess podcast, hosted by Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes and Will Arnett. The interview will record tomorrow and is set to air sometime in the next week or so.

[quote] He will also be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tomorrow.

It's a parody account, r222.

r223 Andrea Mitchell found dead in a ditch.

Far-Right extremist shitposter Cernovich took note:

you lost me there

Has anyone asked donOLD how he's going to pay for any of his lofty aspirations?

Mexico is apparently paying for the wall. right?

From what little I've seen, she is composed and impressive in the 60 Minutes clips.

I respect the decision now to avoid the "traditional" media. They've got to learn to confine themselves to substantive questions, not these extreme, compound, hypotheticals or unanswerable stunt questions aimed at a gotcha. It doesn't have to be either or but the Harris campaign has pretty much evidently made a choice to avoid them for the most part. I think, in the long, run, that's good for everybody.

She has to go where people are. The truth is that nontraditional forms of media have eclipsed mainstream press. Do the podcasts, go to Stern, and make TikTok videos. If your voter base is boomers and older Gen-Xers, stick with legacy media, but you're not reaching other demographics that way.

Legacy media sees itself on the frontlines of holding leaders accountable. They think an adversarial stance is the secret formula.

But it isn’t. Trump and Vance feed on the negative energy. Gotcha questions don’t matter if the politician feels comfortable lying or attacking the questioner and the media. Viewers tune out, less informed than they might have been with a less confrontational approach.

R229, I expect to be shouting obscenities at Bill Whitaker.

I may need a cocktail or three to get through this interview.

R231, I do too. They only wager the odds on elections, and never evaluate the stakes

I'm not arguing for soft balls, just reasonable hard balls. I'm tired of the theatre.

Why?

Why? It seems like swiftboating. Like, “I don’t see an interview I like ” so she must be entirely incompetent, worse than trump!

Get real. She’s all over the internet giving interviews.

[quote] NBC's Andrea Mitchell says Kamala Harris needs to "double down on more interviews and serious interviews.” “She's got such a big problem with men... big problem. But also the business world, they don't think she's serious. They don't think she's a heavyweight."

What a coincidence. I’ve been saying the same thing about this old, rich, wrinkled, entitled white lady pretending to be a “journalist” while transparently seeking social status for years.

She married one of the most financially influential men on the planet who resembled a deflated toad and socializes with the megarich who would love another round of tax breaks that would further punish the middle class.

Does anyone think NBC has kept her around for any other reason, except maybe pity? She’s epitomizes the entitled old guard who scoff at their own irrelevance and think elitist shaming and “both sides do it” is a long-term strategy.

Put the old cunt out to pasture where she can spend her days chugging (more) overpriced gin with Peggy Noonan reminiscing about the good old days.

I’ve posted this before, but I don’t know what the fuck happened with Andrea Mitchell. I knew her back when she was starting out in Philadelphia (radio, to boot). She had long curly black hair and wore bandanas, peasant skirts and sandals. Next thing you know she’s a blond with a stick up her ass.

Fantastic exchange.

I hope the rest of the interview is as good.

I just love her. People who can't are weird.

West Virginia

[quote] HRC 203 states that the “Democrat-led regime, has utterly failed, and continues to fail, in a suspicious manner, in its absolute duty to adequately protect the Republican nominee for president” before the resolution states that if there is “abundant evidence that non-citizens have been and are being registered to vote in the national election of 2024,” among other “suspicious” acts, the state will not recognize the elected president in 2024.

[quote] The resolution continues by stating that West Virginia will not recognize any Democrat candidate for President if the Republican candidate is assassinated, injured during an assassination attempt, incarcerated, or in any way barred from any state ballot.

[...]

[quote] Lastly, the resolution said that if the state Attorney General, Secretary of State and the state legislature, in which Republicans currently hold a supermajority, determine that the Republican president or vice-presidential candidates are illegally eliminated from the race by fraud or interference, the governor will call a special session to “protect the will of the people.”

[quote] The West Virginia Democratic Party released a statement Monday expressing its “outrage” by the introduction of the resolution, which it said aims to prevent anyone but Donald Trump from being recognized as the winner of the election.

A comment online:

[quote] Read carefully. The January 6 prosecutions meet the definition of election interference. The legislature could reject the election results based on the cases in GA and the DC district court. Watch for other MAGA states to follow suit.

Glenn Close, Kerry Washington, Jessica Alba, & Michael Ealy

Glenn looks like a lesbian truck driver in that camo cap.

I wish there would have been more on Kamala's gun ownership in the 60 Minutes interview. Plenty of Dems are gun owners and should start talking more publicly about gun ownership.

Kamala and Tim know how to laugh. Trump and Vance do not.

Chicken shit trump backed out

R243, what the fuck is that?

West Virginia might choose to not recognize a Democratic President, but they sure as fuck are going to keep accepting federal money

Reminder that Tim Walz is on Kimmel's show tonight.

I bet Trump is envious of Putin's control of the airwaves. You know he's consulting attorneys now trying to figure out how he can shut down the late night comics who are eviscerating him. If the worst happens and he's elected, I'm hoping to rely on them to keep me sane.

[quote]Kamala and Tim know how to laugh. Trump and Vance do not.

Sociopathy 101. Laughter shows human empathy and a hint of submission to the wit of others. Neither is of the slightest interest to DJT and JDV. Doubtless to them genuine laughter Indicates weakness, and is no use at all in the pursuit of sheer overmastering power.

Do West Virginians really think they're so important that the rest of the country would care if they decide to accept delusion over reality in the upcoming election as outlined in R243, just like the individual they're doing all these silly antics to please? One of the least relevant states in the union that's consistently at or near the bottom in most quality of life indicators and a place far more choose to leave than move to. Republicans have truly lost their minds.

If they refuse to do the work and improve themselves as a state to not be a national embarrassment, R254, I guess they think they'll do their best to try and gum up the works and drag the rest of America down to their level.

America has been moving ahead without WVa's cooperation or participation for decades.

So engaging and relatable.

I can't imagine anyone who is dealing with elderly parents wouldn't be interested in hearing more about this. The eldercare industry is a landmine to navigate and I, for one, would welcome anything that levels the playing field.

Totally, but there are so many fools in the US

Helping old people? WOKE! No one but SNOWFLAKES and COMMIES are interested in helping old people! Get that woke shit outta here!

r260, hear, hear, the GenX

Kamala Harris Wins Howard Stern’s Vote:

Let them have Florida —we don’t need it…and, as noted elsewhere, the added value to Trump Is cancelled out elsewhere.

Follow up on R264:

Full tilt…

Putin is on record, saying he wants to destroy America.

Destroy us.

He is no friend of anyone who loves America. Who wants Americans to be safe. Who has America's best interests, in mind.

Only someone evil, someone who would be besties with the likes of Jeffrey Epstein for instance, would consider being friends with Putin.

[quote] Let them have Florida —we don’t need it

There's a Senate race in Florida. We could be rid of Rick Scott. Plus this needs to be a landslide to beat back MAGA. We need Florida.

That’s not the Presidential race, is it? Apples and oranges.

Th Stern interview was 👍

r269, the Senate is the gateway to Supreme Court corruption. Rotten apples and rotten oranges.

FL voting trump and Mucarscamuscatel for Senate is fine with me.

Why is that directed at me—send it to 268

R267, tell that to the MAGAts

I have R273. They are under the impression that simping for Putin "Owns the Libs". What can you do what that type of stupidity and contrarinism?

There's nothing to be done. They're beyond help. I'm no cult deprogrammer who can make someone realize they've been hoodwinked. I sincerely wish I was!

Indeed, none of us are

October 9, 2016 - four years ago today: CNBC's Carl Quintanilla posted a screen capture of a post on X, then known as Twitter, from Vance saying, "Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this, I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us."

Have at it Kamala and Tim!!!

But Dump has Herschel Walker!

Isn't there anyone to explain to him that a "free press" is in the Constitution? Maybe a coloring book or something?

Yes, look over there, at that, at something, but not at my seven chats with a psychopathic war-monger.

60 Minutes added to the list of things to be investigated. Does he have any plan except investigating the people/organizations that offended his fee-fees using our tax dollars?

The people suggesting that politicians and journalists would have to seek asylum in Canada used to sound complete looney tunes to me. But not now.

On a lighter note, the Stern interview was very good. I didn't want it to end.

[QUOTE]Does he have any plan except investigating the people/organizations that offended his fee-fees using our tax dollars?

Yes. It's called Project 2025.

[quote] Project 2025

I don't know her. Maybe she got me covfefe once.

Project 2025 isn't his plan. He's the trojan horse. When some of the most sinister forces in the country are enacting P25, Trump will be eating McD's and demanding that his henchmen find dirt on his enemies.

So now we like Julia Roberts?

Ding!^

Tell us something we don't know r285. Point is he likes what he's heard about it and has promised to bring its authors into his administration.

Trump: "Where's Gays For Trump?"

Supporter: "We're over here!"

Trump: "You don't look gay."

OMG. Beyond clueless!

Did Trump's father have a face transplant?

From r289...

[quote]Trump now threatens the broadcast license of another media company, this time CBS and 60 Minutes. He has now threatened to go after NBC, ABC & CBS if elected, while each of them continue to treat him as a sane and normal candidate. Ron Filipkowski

When you're damned if you do and damned if you do - DO! Have at him, networks!

^and damned if you don't

Donald Trump is the spitting image of his mother at R291! He's her minus the updo, though the hair color is the same. I thought it was an altered photo at first, but its legitimate.

^^^Imagine being 78 years old and acting like child in elementary school. Fucking annoying and some people really want him back in the White House behaving like that. Disgusting.

Kamala's full interview with Howard Stern

Can’t stand him, but honestly this comes across and a fuck lot more adult than anything tumrp has done

[quote]So now we like Julia Roberts?

Occasionally she makes herself useful.

The full Harris interview with Howard Stern is now available and it is excellent.

From Political Wire

Why Trump Is Holding Rallies in Blue States

By Taegan Goddard

Donald Trump is embarking on an unorthodox strategy by holding large campaign rallies in solidly Democratic states, such as California, Colorado, Illinois and New York. It’s odd because he has little chance of winning any of these states.

Here’s what I think is going on:

Trump knows he can only win by turning out low-propensity voters. A new poll backs this up: He leads Kamala Harris among infrequent voters, 52% to 45%. Among voters who always show up, Harris leads by 51% to 47%. It’s very hard to reach voters who aren’t really paying attention. There’s not enough time to hold enough rallies in rural areas of battleground states to effectively connect with these voters. Trump’s best bet is to hold massive rallies in places that might garner national media attention. He hopes these rallies will expand the reach of his message across the country — including the key battlegrounds. The rallies might even convey momentum (even if there isn’t any) and create enthusiasm among his base. In the end, Trump has decided that all politics is now national.

Ugh.

Re: R302

[quote] I’ve confirmed with @TheGarden that they signed an agreement with Trump to hold a rally on October 27 at 3 pm at MSG, which is in my Senate district 1/3

^ I really don't see Trump's usual caravan of hicks following him into NYC. They don't have the cash to stay in Manhattan hotels. And I somehow doubt his paid attendees get a hotel room and per diem. More like $50 and an expired Wendy's coupon.

It will all be policemen from Staten Island

^ It's a Sunday...at 3:00.

And aside from the Long Island and Westchester MAGA, I'm sure lots of people will take transit in from Jersey and/or Connecticut. Assuming it is over--or they leave--by 5:30 they could reasonably be back home by 8:00ish.

Another factor that may not resonate with much of the country is that the Jewish holidays are falling later than usual this year. Don't underestimate the resentment many of his base feel about having work and school schedules disrupted by events they don't celebrate. This rally will be coming on the heels of Sukkot.

Whose MeeMaw is this?!?

[quote]I’ve confirmed with @TheGarden that they signed an agreement with Trump to hold a rally on October 27 at 3 pm at MSG, which is in my Senate district

What's with these NYC rallies? Is this his (subconscious) way of saying goodbye? Like salmon returning home to die?

^^^

The salmon of MSG - is that like the swallows of Capistrano?

Maybe this is a good thing. Whenever Trump backs a Republican candidate, they lose. So in this case, yeah, let Trump be Trump.

He’s a turd

Ladies: do not let them drag you backwards. You will never gain that ground back. Those who don't want to utilize contraception or have abortions? Don't.

"Grew up on Schoolhouse Rock.

Sad that we’re still fighting for our rights, after we finally gained some ground.

Vote blue"

The Trump Farewell Tour.

Cue Sinatra...

r314, ooh, that's "Lawrence the band" singing

If somehow science could find a way to make abortion go away as a national issue the gop could stay in power for decades.

They made that unsavoury pact with the evangelicals and now abortion is tied around their necks for as long as that group remains a substantial voting block.

Harris Town Hall on CNN

good!

Great. She should be very good in that format.

Obama in Pittsburgh launching his swing state tour.

YES!

What an asshat.

Shitters gonna shit

Oh, that definitely was a shart. He’s also breathing very heavily. Dare we hope?

Yep, he just cut one. Diaper Don rides again!

Anyone who looks at the video at r330 with clear eyes would easily vote for Kamala.

I thought Obama's speech tonight was awesome. Loved every minute of it.

Obama came all the way thru tonight. All the way. Laid that shit down like it needed to be stated. Mafuckin crazy ass white people acting like that shit is ok, every fkin lie and distortion. And not just white, some of these ghetto blacks done hopped on the misinformation train. It is NOT ok. Our country shall not surrender to chaos.

Black today, R331?

Harris' Univision town hall was awesome.

Harris' Univision town hall, here.

Just watched the full clip at R331. VP Harris is deeply empathetic and so accurate in terms of the cynical partisan game playing Trump’s GOP is doing on this issue.

Hopefully he doesn't show for the CNN townhall and she can repeat this to a larger audience.

"A lot of legacy media outlets should be absolutely embarrassed that it was Univision that beat them to a question on long Covid, medical debt and homelessness. It’s not surprising but Harris keeps doing so much more without them than with."

I see our resident MAGA are already up @ r335. Does it hurt your feelings that Dump would never, ever, ever have empathy for you in a similar situation?

Obama should do this every day.

R342 Nah, I'd rather see him on Outdoor Life. Reach the more of the redneck crowd.

Wednesday

JUST WEDNESDAY.

The frustrating thing for Kamala’s team is that trying to seize on any one of his lies or batshit ramblings is like fighting a firehose with a squirt gun. They come so fast and furious that it’s impossible to keep up.

As long as he gets the press click$/rating$ and feeds the MAGAt fear/hate machine they love it that he likes to them. The more lies, the better! They don't want fact-checking, they want out landish bullshit. They want insanity. They want a crazy ass reality show so they can be entertained.

They are voting for the next season of "America'$ Got Trump: OWN THE LIBS", not the next president.

They are not operating in reality.

*lies to them

R347, indeed. Some are better but legacy media is doing a retread of 2016 where anything that outrages is treated like poetry from him

[quote]The frustrating thing for Kamala’s team is that trying to seize on any one of his lies or batshit ramblings is like fighting a firehose with a squirt gun. They come so fast and furious that it’s impossible to keep up.

True, but pushback absolutely must be maintained. Trump's 'technique' is essentially another aspect of bullying. He thinks he can indeed wear down sane opposition with his sheer volume of total bullshit.

Best for Harris and all prominent speakers constantly to cite Forty Lies as at R345, and thus dub him The Lyin' King. He'd hate his own tactics turned back on him, and the name might just stick as did 'weird.'

He's out of new material.

R353 I fucking love Tim Walz.

I HATE R354.

What is important to note about R351 and R353 is that Musk is now censoring anything derogatory about tRump-as if it were porn

Ed O’Neill endorsed Kamala.

[quote]What is important to note about [R351] and [R353] is that Musk is now censoring anything derogatory about tRump-as if it were porn

Yep:

My sugar Waltz.

Walz

Damn, that Ed O'Neill ad made me mist up.

Elon is such a piece of shit. He needs to be me too'd out of existence.

^ I KNEW Bette was a DLer!

I think part of the problem with Musk and twitter is that they have created this reality wherein DJT would have (or did) absolutely win the 2020 election EXCEPT for censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story (never mind that Hunter wasn't the candidate...), ergo, anything they can do (are doing) with regards to censoring information in 2024 is fair game.

Part of the problem is that Melon is an Uber entitled prick.

He is a national security risk and should have all of his government contracts terminated, his security clearances revoked and be tossed in Gitmo as an enemy of the United States.

A few people on Twitter who actually had clearances at some point in their career have noted theirs would have been canceled immediately if they had said anything like Musk's comments. I can only hope intelligence is keeping tabs on him. Another thought is that he might be working with U.S. intelligence funneling information about foreign leaders and government figures. An informant.

Kamala released her medical records.

Ha! I'd love to see Trump's from an actual doctor

“The people who worked as close as possible to him, 80-90 percent are saying do not hire him again”

i sympathize with her, I too have seasonal allergies

This confirms that she’s not black. No diabetes, no hypertension.

She grew up eating food with lots of turmeric and spices. No diabetes, no hypertension...

that's great

I want to see President Harris go toe to toe with Indian weasel Narendra Modi.

she could slap USHA Vance too

I love it. Good for those kids!

"OMG! This voting march in Dayton, Ohio for teenagers who are voting for the first time is incredible! 🔥🔥🔥🙌🥰❤😊🌊🇺🇸"

Cold Open

SNL can take their both-sides "comedy" and shove it up their asses. We don't need to see that shit these days.

"NEW: Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz are blanketing the Blue Wall battlegrounds this week, according to the campaign.

MONDAY Harris will be in Erie, Pennsylvania. Walz will hit Eau Claire and Green Bay, Wisconsin.

TUESDAY Harris will be in Michigan. Walz will blitz Western Pennsylvania.

WEDNESDAY Harris will campaign in Pennsylvania.

THURSDAY Harris will hit the trail across Wisconsin, visiting Milwaukee, La Crosse, and Green Bay. Walz will campaign in Durham and Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

FRIDAY Harris will campaign across Michigan, with stops in Grand Rapids, Lansing, and Oakland County.

SATURDAY Harris will stump in Detroit before heading to Atlanta, Georgia. Walz will campaign in Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District."

Go, Team, Go!

New Detroit-specific ad.

W00T!

[ My Incestors Built This Country] on the shirt of the man at at R364 is actually correct, as he is the result of many generations of incest.

“My investors Built This Country” on one tshirt

“Daddy daddy fuck your little boy in the ass” on a DL approved tshirt.

Fucking auto correct :-)

I hope Atlanta is a rally and I hope I get in

[quote] If somehow science could find a way to make abortion go away as a national issue the gop could stay in power for decades.

If somehow we could make the Electoral College disappear, the Democrats would be in power for decades.

R390 no not for decades. But the Dems would have a whole lot better chance if the rules were not what they are.

Besides abortion will be a non issue long before the EC is one. Because the EC is never going away.

The US is not all that liberal a country. And without abortion I am not sure what issue would drive the voters hard enough to ensure national wins for the Dems .

Troubling for the Dems future that so many black males are comfortable with trump and gop today. That is not a good sign.

Those deluded black males voting for him will love King Trump, until they realize that he's giving racist law enforcement total immunity.

But it will be too late by then, for them and the rest of us.

The GOP would not stay in power for decades. They would be disposed ala The Tories in an epic landslide defeat because they would destroy the economy (as they always do), stoke tensions between the races and genders, advance BS evangelical causes that the majority do not agree with, put the poor and sick into god awful call centre jobs ala The Tories did to the working class in the north of England, ruin social programmes, sell our pristine public lands and have socialism for the business owning class.

Black men are overwhelmingly voting for Harris.

White men and white women + Hispanic men are the problem

Really though it is white people.

Facts

[quote] no not for decades. But the Dems would have a whole lot better chance if the rules were not what they are.

Why on earth did you challenge this statement? The claim about abortion is speculative. Mine is an actual fact. The Democrats have won the popular vote in every election since 1988 (I.e., decades) The only time Republicans have won since then, the Republican had the advantage of incumbency despite not winning the popular vote the first time. If tte Democratic candidate were the incumbent in that election as the popular vote would have indicated, his chances of winning would have been much higher. In that case, we would have had three full decades of democratic presidencies. It is a statistical fact we would have 28 years of them.

On the other hand, abortion wasn’t much of an issue for decades because Roe was in no foreseeable danger, and republicans managed to lose many times despite the Electoral College advantage.

It’s bizarre you consider a statement supported by historical facts questionable, and a speculative, highly questionable one credible

I’ve had that guy on ignore for months, he’s not interested in any rational conversation R395

R395 not speculative at all. I know what the history shows. I was talking about the future.

Abortion and women are the one single driving force for the dems today and as far as the future. And it is what drove previous de voters. And nothing else is a major force driving the Dems today other than trump .

If abortion would go away via a scientific breakthrough the Dems would be fucked. They would be much less fucked without the EC. It’s women keeping the party afloat. But it’s more likely that abortion will go away as an issue before the EC does.

The EC is never going away.

Why does he keep stranding his supporters and why do they keep supporting him?

R397. Thank you for telling the EC is not going away. The fact that you don’t realize that everyone knows that already and that you imagined my post said so is another evidence of your limitations.

The electoral college advantage for Republicans has significantly increased in recent years. Democrats win the popular vote by larger margins but still lose or barely win the presidency.

Abortion isn’t the only throng women care about. You should try talking to some some day instead of assuming things about them.

And abortion isn’t going away.

R400 let’s hope abortion does not go away because that is the single issue that drives Dem voters and can result in national wins.

Yes people even women as you point out also care about other issues.

Name me one issue that can win a national election like abortion can. It’s not peace an old Dem stand by. It’s not the border. It’s not crime. It’s not even guns.

R401, that’s very simplistic. Abortion was not a major issue in 2016 or 2020, though it should have been. The economy, Covid response, terrorism, and health care have been major issues at different times and for different reasons. The Democrats would be winning on the economy if inflation hadn’t been so severe. Abortion will recede as an issue if we have an economic collapse.

r400, i'm writing postcards, I've written 45 already, planning on two-hundred

[quote] Abortion will recede as an issue if we have an economic collapse

who's predicting economic collapse?

It’s not out of the question. Our massive debt can only be sustained as long as we can find sellers for the bonds that finance them. Trump and Bush exacerbated this by lowering taxes in growth periods, when you should do the opposite. Trump will be far worse, but Democrats are not going to raise taxes.

Since the dollar is the world’s reserve currency, we’re able to do this longer than other countries would. At some point, it’s not going to work. This year, interest on the debt surpassed military spending.

Doug’s firefighter brother is a hottie.

That's right, R394. No matter how hard the "Black men are shifting to Trump" narrative is being pushed, Black men are going to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. You'd think that Trump has a chance of capturing 30% or more of the Black vote based on all the media hype. He'd be lucky to get half of that because most Black men have sense and know Trump isn't going to do a damn thing for them.

I've yet to see a "Black men for Trump" rally and the only time you see Black men at his rallies, they're used as props. Has there been a mass gathering of Black Trump supporters anywhere?

As a Black man, it seems like a scenario is setting up where Black men will be blamed if Trump wins again, which pisses me off. If this election is lost, it will be due to factors other than just a handful of (delusional) Black men switching sides.

[quote]Those deluded black males voting for him will love King Trump, until they realize that he's giving racist law enforcement total immunity.

Any minority who votes for Trump is delusional. Like the Mayor of Hamtramck, Michigan, who leads the only all-Muslim city council in the country who endorsed Trump. "Muslim Ban" Trump. Or Hispanic voters, who back his "Round 'em up and deport" bullshit which will open the flood gates for discrimination against them. Or LGBT voters, who ignore Trump's pandering to Evangelicals that would strip us of all of our rights if given the chance. Or Jewish voters who forgot that he said a loss will be their fault, the GOP's antisemitism and his coddling of White nationalist elements. There has to be a degree of self-hatred embedded deep down in people if they support a man whose shown time and time again that he would gladly throw certain groups under the bus if it was beneficial to him.

Not so fast: Experts are "skeptical" about polls showing Black, Latino voters moving to Trump:

R408, I agree 100% with your post. Well said.

[quote]Black men are overwhelmingly voting for Harris.

Those who bother to vote.

Many of the recent overall poll numbers are being swayed by an influx of garbage Trump-funded polls that show him leading.

That way, when he later contests the election, he can say - but the polls showed I was winning

Looking at early voter patterns will give a more accurate prediction

R409 your link after showing that black males esp young black males are moving toward Trump in more significant numbers than before, based in numerous surveys, you get one 1000 person survey from Howard U saying the shift may not be as large as thought.

And that’s the experts are skeptical proof ?

One survey after another disagrees with Howard U.

R382, Harris is not making the same mistake that Hillary did, who took the blue wall states for granted and barely campaigned in them during the final month. Even Bill Clinton questioned her campaign's logic that they were secure. Looking back, Hillary really did run a horrible campaign.

Thank you R403. There are so many wonderful Americans. I truly hope that we win out over hate and fascism on Nov 5th.

This is a battle for the soul of our country.

I know MARY but I am not wrong.

[quote]That's right, [R394]. No matter how hard the "Black men are shifting to Trump" narrative is being pushed, Black men are going to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. You'd think that Trump has a chance of capturing 30% or more of the Black vote based on all the media hype. He'd be lucky to get half of that because most Black men have sense and know Trump isn't going to do a damn thing for them.

I'm also not buying this narrative that black men are largely moving to Trump. There will be a few, but that's going to be it. The media pushes this every election, and it usually turns out to be false.

R408 In those godawful CNN panels, Black men and Latinos mention him being a great entrepreneur. A Latino woman was on last night saying she never liked him until she saw him in person and then she saw that he was an inspirational entrepreneur. He is a poor person's ideal entrepreneur because who can understand what the hell Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet are doing! Who can replicate the guys who went to MIT and became venture capitalists. But Trump is plastering his name on Chinese junk and selling it a massive markup. Young men and stay at home moms are the marks for get rich quick scams like drop shipping, selling shirts on Shopify, selling ebooks on Amazon, house flipping courses. Trump's hustle is not that dissimilar (if you ignore the 400 million from daddy and the national TV exposure!)

Kamala's life story is actually far more inspirational and she understands these people. Everyone in her life is self made. Her sister was a teen mom and then graduated from Stanford. Her BIL was the first in his family to go to college and now he earns 10 million per year at Uber. Doug worked retail and fast food and worked his way up. It's very frustrating that they big orange trust fund baby is the one they relate to.

But, yes, it will be a very small % of Black men who vote for Trump and unfair to blame them though I understand why they need every vote they can get in Philly and Detroit.

And Kamala has released 20 years of tax returns. She made $70,000 in her first return 20 years ago and her best year was when she released her book. She had her Senator's salary and her book royalties that year. She owned one apartment in SF before meeting Doug. Her salary as VP is the highest salary she has ever had. So much for an out of touch liberal!

Ladies and gentlemen: The STUPIDEST people on earth.

[quote]Harris is not making the same mistake that Hillary did, who took the blue wall states for granted and barely campaigned in them during the final month.

No, she's campaigning in them exclusively, thereby ignoring the rest of the country and not supporting down ballot candidates who are in a dead heat with Repubs with her presence.

They're doing God's work, R419. God loves rapists, thieves, liars and convicted felons!

JHC in a very close election a small shift in votes in a few states can mean the election.

Only a true moron could say that black males going from 16% or so of support for trump to 21% claiming they will vote for trump is no big deal because most blacks still vote dem.

That is moronic. As is seeing poll after poll showing the same thing , more black male support for trump, and dismissing it because you don’t like what it shows.

R421, she's giving them millions of dollars.

Gus and Doug have the same birthday

[quote]your link after showing that black males esp young black males are moving toward Trump in more significant numbers than before

young men in GENERAL are moving towards conservatism, in stark contrast to young women who are moving the other way. this level of centrifugalism has never been seen before

[quote] Black men and Latinos mention him being a great entrepreneur.

who's bankrupted more than any other

I wish this woman and/or her family would be in a national campaign ad. This is from 2020. The woman grew up in New Jersey and her family's company helped build Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City and Trump stiffed the family's company for 8 million. She didn't vote for Trump in 2016 and she brought up other good points in her short video.

R425

One party is seen as tough and manly and one party is seen as soft sensitive and fem.

The issue is not if that is true or fair its do people see the parties this way. I think this accounts for much of the—-young black male trump support increase.

And yes that increase is real .

Hitting him hard. This is excellent.

[quote]The woman grew up in New Jersey and her family's company helped build Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City and Trump stiffed the family's company for 8 million.

That's just good business!

To be fair, Trump is a martial cheater like JFK was. But, JFK had redeeming qualities and despite having health issues as child and teen, he served in World War II. Trump dodged the Vietnam War draft with a bullshit bone spurs claim.

Maybe, RFK Jr's alliance with Trump will cause the Kennedy Curse to transfer over to the Trumps.

Trump never served anyone but himself his whole life. At least JFK (and I’m no fan) served the country in multiple ways before taking office.

So, butt hurt dude is butt hurt men aren’t getting all the attention anymore?

He can fuck right on off. With himself.

The Repukes are fashioning themselves into a party of men for men! LOL! As if they were once something else and recently changed. This misogynist must be 22 because he knows nothing.

Pussyboy Trump has never been a man.

R438, these guys grew up when the internet was the wild west of edgelords and have been fed a steady diet of disgusting chokey porn. Trump is the 4chan president and they're supporting him for the LULZ. Now back to Kamala and Tim. They're edifying

"MAGA supporters argue that Trump was a Washington outsider who was so dumb that he got tricked by the establishment, but now he's a seasoned insider.

Drain the Swamp by putting in a Swamp creature?"

R441

Just think what that says. The first time the deep state kept trump in check this time that will not happen. Trump has learned to pick “ better” people.

A warning and a promise

Saw this and signed up for another phone banking shift.

This cannot happen

Morning Joe shows polling that had Harris ahead with white women by 6 points last month and down 2 points with white women this month. That does not add up. An 8 point shift with this demo in 4 weeks? I'm not buying it. It was followed by a piece on 2020 Trump women in PA who are now voting for Harris. All educated white women. There are a lot of figures flying around right now that are very questionable.

Is that Florida?

Nope, nationally.

R444 I feel like it's 2022 again with the red wave nonsense and bad Republican polling flooding the zone. I agree that that it seems unlikely for there to be wild swings in people's support of either side.

too close

I feel like it’s 2016 again

The one you think should be a run away winner ups and…..

Time will tell

The funny thing is, Repukes should actually duplicate the 2016 playbook. Instead of flooding the media with polls that show the race really close, flood it with polls that show Harris way ahead. The close polls only make us Dump haters give more money to the Dems/Harris and volunteer more.

R449, it is nothing like 2016, I wrote about that in my post at r450. The polls in 2016 had Hillary comfortably ahead, which built in complacency. This time it’s nothing like that.

After 2016, I will never feel "complacent" about an election, again. Not ever.

America on Trump

^ Seems about right.

Scary when you stop and think about it

R451, indeed, in 2016 people ignored Jill stein or playfully considered voting for her. Now it’s a concerted effort to out her as an arm of MAGA

Weren't the the 2012 election polls way off too? I heard one of the talking heads say that Romney was in disbelief because he was certain he was going to win because of the polls, public and esp internal R polls. So, it wasn't just 2016, it seems they got 2012 very wrong too but I guess 2016 overshadowed it.

Harris should be running away with this. Almost nothing has gone right for trump except for a grazing wound and the fucking polls.

Every other thing has broken for Harris and Trump and team have been a disaster.

Yet I do believe the polls as of how people feel today. Which may have less to do with how they vote or don’t vote in November

Polls are now

1] Propaganda for the polling industry.

2] Showed that they did not learn how to improve their models and their samples since 2016.

3] Polls are not reliable. Is anyone standing next to drop off boxes asking the voters their opinions?

A lot of it has to do with perception. Facts about immigration and the economy don’t matter. Americans perceive them as bad.

A guy I know owns a roofing company and most of his workers are from Mexico and Central America. I doubt all of them are legal. He LOOOOVES Trump and I asked what he's going to do when they start deporting his workforce. Will he hire American meth heads? He hadn't even thought about it. I'd love to see his ass suffer.

Track the flood of R polls here. V interesting!

R455, I've long said the electoral college is affirmative action for yokels.

Interview with Bret Baier:

me too

R463 and don’t think we are not happy about that. We are never going to let that go. Never ever. Go on say it some more no one gives a fuck

Interesting r464. That is one confident bitch.

Does this help? I dont' think so....

Kamala goes to the belly of the beast and DonOLD pussed out on a 60 Minutes softball interview.

Ah crap

wait? wasn't she a trumpy at one point?

R471 Omarosa was on his White House Staff as director of Office of Public Liaison during most of 2017.

Omarosa needs to write a book. She saw some shit

[quote] Most of the MAGA comments to Baier follow a consistent theme - that they lost all faith in Baier after his tough interview embarrassed Trump last year, and that they expect him to go into this interview with guns blazing to win back their favor. They also mentioned some of the previous Harris interview conspiracies - that her earrings were airpods where she was getting the answers, that she was given the questions ahead of time, that Baier and Fox called the 2020 election too early for Biden, etc.

[quote] Baier is widely considered the best substantive interviewer at Fox by far, which is why he is usually tapped to moderate their debates and Town Halls. His interview of Trump in June of 2023 was a masterclass in how to interview someone who lies, rambles, and doesn't like to get pinned down on specifics. It was easily Trump's worst interview of the campaign - so much so that he trashed Baier afterwards as being "nasty" to him during the interview.

WOW. Check out the HUGE crowd at VP Harris’s rally in Greenville, North Carolina.

You lie r475! That’s Trump’s rally!

Happy first anniversary

[quote] “We respect that all voters, including our own members, will take other issues into consideration when they vote. As compelling as those reasons may be for some of our members, it’s CPF’s responsibility to recommend what’s best for the bottom line of firefighters’ well-being and the public safety services we deliver. With that in mind, Kamala Harris has earned our strongest recommendation.”

Did Ella design the cape Kamla wore to Cole's wedding?

Ella Fitzgerald?

Does that even work?

R483 Yes it does.

wow! it would be a real shame if people signed up and didn't show then

Stark difference. 180.

"If this doesn’t move you…honestly… I don’t know what will."

r486, the answer to the Trump Twitter question is taken from The Third Man:

No sweetie, you are a thing, a commodity, a dot...

indeed, he's that bad

The first vote Gus gets to cast will be for his Dad.

aw, I *heart* Gus

From AJC correspondent.

[quote]Georgia voters set a record-breaking pace for early voting Tuesday, with about 72,000 people casting ballots by mid-morning.

[quote]This 1st day of early voting is a blowout. As of noon, we are at 122,049 voters so far today. The record 1st day was 2020, with 136,000 votes cast. We will be blowing past the previous First Day record. Great job counties, avg check in time is 55 seconds.

Things looking excellent in Georgia. But if they're really gonna count all that by hand, it's gonna take weeks to get the result.

@ R490 - THAT'S OUR GUS!!

Fuck yeah Georgia!

2.4% of all people who voted in Georgia in 2020 voted in the first four hours of early voting today.

That must be some fake voting. I'm pretty sure the election is some day around November

Carter has voted for Kamala.

Hurray, President Carter!

R498 This Gen-X kid is crying like a MARY.

Could we pick up a senate seat in Nebraska? Osborn's internal polling shows him up by 6 points over Republican incumbent Deb Fischer.

Osborn is running as an Independent, but he's decidedly more progressive than Joe Manchin. He’s openly soliciting funds from Democratic emailing lists. He’s a longtime union man and strongly pro-choice.

I hate that Tester is crashing and burning in Montana. We all laughed when Trump had a rally there to support him, but it fucking worked. Same thing might happen in NY.

R502, nothing to do with Trump is working in NY.

*support his opponent, I meant

Karl Rove standing for Kamala Harris?? That's like Alexis Carrington going to bat for Krystal!

Over 250,000 votes in Georgia today. Record breaking.

What if Trump wins....

R507? Go straight to hell.

"Pennsylvania: Two New Studies Show Trump’s Trade Policies Would Crush Pennsylvania Farmers, Exports & Commodity Prices"

[quote]Two New Studies Show Trump’s Trade Policies Would Crush Pennsylvania Farmers, Exports & Commodity Prices

But he'll own the libs!