Ethel Kennedy is DEAD TO ME at 96

What will Cheryl wear?

Her wedding ring, R2

Will she be buried with her finger in her nose?

Outlived Jackie by a full thirty years. Joan is the last one of that generation standing.

Never a Kennedy, always a Skakel.

I was the prettiest!

This one's for my dead homeys.

Is Joan a DL favorite? Because she feels like she should be.

I'm shtill kickin'!

This will be a madcap funeral!

Let's hope we don't see mommy's head mounted in RFK Jr's library in the coming months.

RIP Ethel. End of an era. Yes Joan, I know you're still here.

Seriously, I know Joan is the youngest from that generation, but it’s surprising she’s still kicking after all that drinking.

I had no idea who she was, so I had to look her up.

How in the hell did this woman live to be 96, after having ELEVEN kids??!!!!

That must have taken a lot out of her.

What an interesting and tragic life.

Both her parents were killed in a plane crash, and then her husband was assassinated.

And she was rich in her own right.

Had this appeared when i started on Datalounge, this would have received a hundred posts by now.

I'm actually glad the Kennedys are being more and more forgotten.

That's sad.

Only 96? Amateur.

[quote] Both her parents were killed in a plane crash, and then her husband was assassinated.

And her younger brother was killed in another plane crash eleven years after her parents. Just proves she's a true Kennedy.

Wow. Those had to be some truly tired flaps.

She's been a professional widow since 1968.

You can be sure that the dress they bury her in will be returned to Saks by her a week after the funeral.

R20- I must say that is a bitchy comment

and

I approve 👌

I hope her final words to her son was along the lines of “Get as far away as you can from that piece of shit con man.”

Will the Trumps crash the funeral?

Susan?

Together at last.

Was she still of sound mind in recent years? She looked in some pictures like she had the blank-eyed dementia stare.

Is this the October surprise?

Together at last

Together again.

I told her NOT to get vaccinated!

Long life, strong lady, devoted wife/widow, questionable mothering skills. She really bought into the Kennedy myth and supported it with everything she had, now that she's gone that whole ethos is really at a final end.

The rest of the country won't be affected much but she was a real fixture on the central Cape (Cod). Hyannisport won't be the same in a sense, with her passing.

Pickin with the saints.🙏

I’ll be transporting the body to Central Park.

Keep the head on, Bobby!

Is she too old for this to be considered the Kennedy curse?

[quote]How in the hell did this woman live to be 96, after having ELEVEN kids?

Healthy peasant genes.

What a life. For whatever her faults, she made being the Widow Kennedy her fulltime job and worked hard to memorialize Bobby. Her efforts are no small part of while his name is still on buildings & held in esteem today (despite what we actually about him)

It's kind of sad how her son smeared shit all over that legacy & a lifetime of work

Remember to put plastic bags over the kids' heads for when you chainsaw off the head and strap it to the roof of the minivan, Bobby!

Will Olivia Nuzzi cover the funeral?

Will she be wearing clothing?

The JAB???

Yes, R40

Bobby's foolishness probably embarrassed her to death.

I'm so sorry. What happened?

The four back rows at the cathedral are reserved for RFK Jr’s side pieces.

And Sirhan Sirhan is still with us.

Shirhan Shirhan

[quote] Is Joan a DL favorite? Because she feels like she should be.

She's not a DL favorite. She bore 11 children. That's not what DLers admire.

I'm so sad! She was one of only three people I knew in this world named Ethel.

I wonder what she thought of Mertz?

R47 They were ask to discreetly attend the wake but avoid the funeral.

I can immediately off the top of my head come up with six, r51.

R54 Can I have YOUR things next year?

They should bar looney toon Jr and the Orange monster

Betcha RFK, Jr. tries to bring a Trump. Not Donnie but maybe one of the kids?

Ethel was a horrible mother. Those kids ran wild and she would chase they around with a hairbrush and beat them, but she was very inconsistent. And she was a drunk. Her kids largely raised themselves. Jackie wouldn't allow her kids around them. John John called the cousins poster boys for bad behavior. Actually, the Shrivers were the family Jackie and the kids were closest to. She made an effort to be on good terms with Stephen Smith because he controlled the money. Jackie hated Peter and Pat Lawford because they helped JFK cheat on her.

[quote] My aunt, Ethel Kennedy passed this morning. What a life she led. What a huge family she created and leaves behind.

Yes, she certainly was incredibly fertile, Maria.

Must you speak ill of the dead like so, r57?

R59, I thought about it. I did. And then I realized Ethel would speak ill of me of the shoe were on the other foot. She was underhanded you know and a very jealous person because she want to claim her share of the spotlight.

so how did the pick her nose meme get started?

[quote] Must you speak ill of the dead like so, [R57]?

Welcome, newbie!

Hitler is dead.

[quote]Hitler is dead

Trump died?

Maybe Cheryl will carry on the nose picking tradition.

r50-

Joan is not Ethel, Joan is Joan Bennet Kennedy, the late Ted Kennedy's ex-wife who has had a rather lifelong battle with the drink, like so many other Kennedys. She was known as an educated, lovely woman dragged into a very difficult, troubled marriage and family which did not always support her, mostly because they were likely jealous.

Joan Bennett Kennedy only had three children, because she's not completely insane.

Say what you will, the Kennedy boys had great hair.

But as an eldergay who campaigned for Bobby Kennedy in 1968 and got his heart broken, this is a day of sadness.

As an 8-year-old living in Brooklyn, I had the opportunity to see Bobby Kennedy ride down the avenue in open car with Lyndon Johnson. I remember it clearly to this day. I’m with you R67 in that this is a day of sadness.

I am strong as steel and still alive! Don't mess with me !

Can I still say 'Does Ethel Kennedy have a black dress?'

Say what you will about Ethel but I will miss having her in the world.

Ethel gave birth one last time, two hours after she died.

—Cheaper by the Dozen

I hope there's a heaven so she & Bobby can be reunited. I remember a Tom Brokaw interview on the 20th anniversary of Bobby's death. She was asked why she never remarried. "I had the best," she said.

This photo is from a location less than half a mile from where I lived. I remember my mother being a nervous wreck because they were in an open car.

RIP is more appropriate

Are they serving bear at the funeral reception?

R29, I'm still alive. At 94.

[quote] Is she too old for this to be considered the Kennedy curse?

In an article about the Kennedy curse published shortly after her death at 104.5, Rose was included.

Damn, talk about tempting fate, R74.

[quote] But as an eldergay who campaigned for Bobby Kennedy in 1968 and got his heart broken, this is a day of sadness.

I was an 11-year old who felt the world had ended with Bobby's death. I had seen him up close weeks earlier. One of my sisters touched his hand.

Surprised that all comments to Cheryl’s post are supportive.

r82...

I found the one black person in R74's link.

Where's Tyrone?

At this period of time, the majority of the black population in this area lived north and west from where this photo was taken, R84. Johnson and Kennedy did not exclude any segment of the population when they came through.

Will there be cocktails at the funeral luncheon?

Has Princess Caroline Kennedy commented yet?

[quote]You can be sure that the dress they bury her in will be returned to Saks by her a week after the funeral.

Oh, I doubt it. If anyone could use a black dress at a moment's notice, it's the Kennedys.

The guy in front of LBJ at r74 looks like DeNiro.

Who is the Josie mentioned as a great granddaughter in her obituary? Never heard of any Kennedy with that name.

There are Asian Kennedys, too! And Black Kennedys!

The more you know 💫

Will DL fave Jack Schlossberg be shirtless and twerking at the funeral?

Whoever thought that Joan the shitfaced drunk would outlive them all?

Mary Jo—happy on the golden streets of heaven!

[quote]I found the one black person in [R74]'s link.

There ain't no mulignans in Bensonhurst! Forget about it!

That’s not Bensonhurst R95. There’s no need to bring race into this thread.

[quoting]Joan is the last one of that generation standing.

Leaning, surely.

Missie Kennedy, she dead.

I wonder, had Bobby lived, if they would have had any more children.

He liked loose women. 😉

RFK Jr will demand to speak at mom’s funeral and do nothing but BULL SHIT!

Ethel also looked like she could be Bobby's mother. I remember thinking that as a kid. I also remember Bobby dying the last day of school in June 1968 and my Mother crying in the morning getting us off to school.

Same here. Mom live in front of the TV for days.

I would imagine that Ethel would have continued getting pregnant until she went into menopause. She loved being pregnant. It was the child raising that she wasn’t able to do.

r104 = Jackie's ghost

[quote]Johnson and Kennedy did not exclude any segment of the population when they came through.

But the townsfolk sure did.

[quote]Who is the Josie mentioned as a great granddaughter in her obituary? Never heard of any Kennedy with that name.

She is from the Hyannis Port "And the Pussycats."

I can't wait for my dear friend Ethel's arrival here in heaven so we can have our first celestial tennis match together.

R104 she would’ve. Here she is in a Brokaw interview in 1988 saying she’d rather have another one instead of being interviewed at 2:30. Christ she was 60. The woman definitely had an obsession with being pregnant, and if Bobby would’ve lived, they probably would’ve have cranked out at least a half dozen more. She loved having them, but her parenting skills raising them overall were crap.

Didn’t Ethel sell Hickory Hill years ago, and moved to Hyannis Port?

r109 I wonder if Bobby had maiesiophilia.

[quote] I hope there's a heaven so she & Bobby can be reunited. I remember a Tom Brokaw interview on the 20th anniversary of Bobby's death. She was asked why she never remarried. "I had the best," she said.

MARY.

R111 probably, but I’m guessing he only fucked Ethel for procreation purposes. Bobby was pretty hot, and he saved all his best sexual skills for me.

Surely she wasn’t celibate after Bobby died? Wasn’t she dating Andy Williams — or was she just a beard?

It’s also uncanny how she resembled the Kennedys — big horse teeth and all. Bobby could have done much better.

Ethel Kennedy, a woman whose triumph in the face of tragedy is succeeded only by her proclivity to procreate.

Had she already voted?

Them’s the rules …

R114, also eyes about 4 inches apart like Jackie.

Susan Dey feels terrible but says, "What are you gonna do?"

Ethel and Jackie never really had much to do with each other. They had very little in common.

Ethel was never on assistance.

Just great…Jack, I mean Ari, please get me another aspirin and a Parliament?!

I’m so uninformed. Didn’t know Lee Raziwell was Onassis girl for 6 years before Jackie AND did not know that Lee had sex with JFK either before or during Jackie marriage. OY-I missed so much.

RFK screwed Ethel’s sister before he nailed Ethel.

Wow this is way more than 3 celebs in a row like usual.

She had a stroke and was in care, and she was very ill for several years.

She wasn't standing, pompous ass R5.

And, for the record, I'm still walking and I famously turned down sex with Bobby, the dead "stander's" husband, so don't pretend I'm not worthy.

She sure could pick them.

How did two grandchildren and two great grandchildren pre-decease her?

Two children—jeez. It’s American history.

And her parents.

And her brother.

There’s more!

It’s that family curse-some Mexican whore put a curse on Joe Kennedy 100 years ago and it stuck-whatever.

Skakel curse came first.

If I'm not mistaken, the lovely Joan Kennedy is the last one standing...

I wish they would all change their last name and disappear.

I met Joan Kennedy waaaay back in1980 when she was campaigning, even did a short interview with her. She was a very gracious woman but you could tell she was mentally disconnected from Ted as well as the campaign effort. She also had a somewhat puffy face, which indicated to me she was still drinking.

[quote]How did two grandchildren and two great grandchildren pre-decease her?

Nobody ever said life is fair.

You may not be able to pick your children, but I sure was able to pick my nose!

Someone posted they didn't know who Ethel was. How can that be? They are either 15 or live under a rock.

One of her granddaughters Saoirse, died of a drug OD, at the Kennedy compound a few years ago.

That’s a great pic of Bobby at R82 but Ethel looks like a matronly aunt.

She was very envious of Jackie, and used to make fun of her all the time to the other Kennedy sisters. She made up the phrase "Zhack-LEEN... rhymes with QUEEN!" to poke fun of the French way Jacqueline pronounced her own name (which Ethel and the sisters thought was pretentious), and Ethel also would gather the sisters around the bathroom door at the Hyannnisport Compound when Jackie was using it so they could make fun of the fact that she always ran water whens he used the toilet (so as to mask any embarrassing bathroom noises).

She had very active ovaries, but she couldn’t live forever…

She preferred to bathe every egg with Bobby's sperm.

Years ago, I used to know this woman who worked at the Neiman Marcus or Saks (can't remember which) in Chevy Chase and she used to say that it was well known that Ethel would come in & shoplift and a day or so later, someone would bring back whatever she took. I have no idea if it's true, but it's a great story

Yes, R141, I recall the story about Jackie saying how great it would be when we got back to the White House & Ethel said, “Who is we?”

Knowing women, it's believable that the Kennedy sisters, especially a sister-in-law in the same position as Jackie in relation to them, made Jackie's life miserable and ganged-up on her Mean Girls style.

Jackie wasn't a Girl's Girl. In "Peggy Sue Got Married" the beatnik character says to Peggy when she strikes out alone to explore, "I thought chicks like you ran in packs", is an apt observation when applied to Jackie.

Jackie was never going to fit-in with other women, no matter who they were, and, quite frankly, I think it's clear she didn't want to.

Bobby Kennedy turned Ethel into a brood mare, apparently with Ethel's complete and eager consent. That type of attitude towards life strikes me as something that would repel Jackie. No wonder those two had issues.

Of course, if it's true, and I'll probably never make-up my mind on this, that Jackie and Bobby had a sexual relationship after JFK was assassinated, well, then Ethel's dislike of Jackie has some basis.

Jackie, of course, was far from perfect. Read how she treated poor William Manchester. I'm one of her biggest stans but even my opinion of her changed in a negative way after reading what a merciless bully she was to him, leaving him professionally and financially bereft.

So sorry to hear this-she won’t be able to witness the collapse of democracy.

Will Ethel be buried at Arlington? Have funeral plans be announced?

Camelot Heaven

Anyone know if she was a smoker? I’m guessing not, since she lived to this old age. Unlike Jackie.

R149 thin was in.

[quote] Of course, if it's true, and I'll probably never make-up my mind on this, that Jackie and Bobby had a sexual relationship after JFK was assassinated, well, then Ethel's dislike of Jackie has some basis.

Bobby was fucking a ton of women, probably including Jackie.

She wasn’t a great lay. She was too transactional to go with RFK for fun or on a whim. It’s another unattributed fishwife’s tale from the 60s…much like the others rehashed here. The sword-smithing legends are overrated.

Although, we know from verified source sources, that the JFK stories from inside the WH (interns; the pool) are true—meh to almost all of the rest.

R14, Your opening sentence is very depressing.

I despair.

r150 I don't believe Ethel was ever a smoker. Jackie, of course, was a lifelong heavy smoker in private. There are only a handful of photos of her where she was caught with a cig in her hand.

October surprise!!!

R146 - per article linked at this thread, she and Bobby did have an affair and were seen being openly affectionate with each other.

Joan was so incredibly gorgeous when she was young. Something Ethel can never say. Plus Joan was a real intellect. I don't know how she got caught up with this disgusting family.

All three Kennedy wives came from Republican families.

That’s incorrect^

r148 I think Arlington has to grant special waivers for spouses like Ethel to be buried with their husband. Jackie is buried there so I assume Ethel will be as well, after a funeral in Centreville at Our Lady of Victory.

The Bennetts & Skakels certainly were, R160. And "Uncle Hughdie" Auchincloss certainly was.

R161 exactly. Where else would Ethel be buried other than besides Bobby? She was hopelessly devoted in every way.

I prefer my childhood parish, FULL of American MARTYRS!

R159 and Joan’s parents were alcoholics.

She was beautiful and sometimes a bit outre, perhaps as a consequence of the drinking. She was photographed wearing a see-through blouse and leather skirt to a White House luncheon in honor of Imelda Marcos. Pat Nixon and Imelda look somewhere between shocked and amused in the background as Joan and her breasts were presented.

Quebecois*

Patty and Melds looking at Joanie. Thanks for the tip off LOL

Joan at her wedding.

I think Joan used fashion as her form of rebellion.

Joan and Ted had a disastrous marriage, but they were a terrific looking couple in their heyday. Ted was by far the most handsome of the Kennedy boys, when young.

Did Joan and Betty Ford ever knock a few back together?

Young Ted was great looking, R170, but I think young Jack, even in his late 30s (see 1956 DNC), was the better looking one.

Young Joan reminds me a lot of Cybill Shepard

Ted at R170 did not look handsome, IMO.

When I was little and Joan was in the tabloids a lot I used to conflate her with Joan Van Ark, well really apart from the name thing, I really conflated her with Valene Ewing, two long suffering blonde wives (throw in a little Suellen for the alcoholism element as well).

That photo looks like Joan Van Ark-amazing.

When Nixon sent Secret Service agents to spy on Ted (under the guise of him being at heightened risk of assassination due to his family's track record), they reported back that Ted and Joan had an argument over her wanting to wear hot pants to a White House function.

^ Pat looked askance.

I loved Joan's wig in that picture and let's be honest - she had the legs for that kind of getup. I wonder whatever happened the strange unfortunate Patrick

Peg leg.

The only people in that family who were kind to Joan were Jackie and Eunice. The other bitches used to go on vacations with Ted and his mistresses.

R181, wrong Kennedy.

Oh Peg Leg’s brother? He ended up in Jersey. His wife (!) ran for a south Jersey house seat and lost to the asshat Van Drew.

The Shriners were every Kennedy’s fav cousins—the least fucked up. And they loved Uncle Steve Smith—he was in charge of Kennedy Enterprises, which was the income source for their trust funds…remember, the dilution factor of Old Joe’s estate was pretty high with the dozens of heirs…

Shrivers!

Jackie and Joan were always fond of each other. They had a lot of things in common - art, music, literature etc. Ethel and the Kennedy sisters weren't interested in any of that and were not cultured at all.

Original White Trash.

To add: Caroline & JFK Jr. had much greater wealth than any individual cousin, due to Jackie’s separate estate ( her “wiles”).

Anthony Shriver looks like his doomed Uncle Joe.

Uncle Joe was a Prince.Daddy Joe Kennedy wanted him to be president. What a tragic family OMG

R190. Mmm…nips.

If Joe Jr. had lived, he would've been the one Joe Sr. put all his ambitions on and groomed to be President. After Joe Jr. was killed in the war, Joe Sr. had to settle for JFK.

Not would have..he did. That’s why he was where he was when he died. Duh.

I grew up in a suburb with huge homes. It was a wasn’t suburb, but when they died off the Irish Catholics moved in with their herd of kids. Two families in the block had 12 kids! We were the smallest family with only 3 kids. There was always someone to play with!

My mom was disgusted by the Catholic parents. “They’re raising livestock, not kids.” And she wasn’t wrong. The older kids were forced to parent the younger kids because their moms were always pregnant. And many of those mothers stopped mothering as soon as she popped out the last kid. They were scary, angry and neglectful. And as an adult, I can’t blame them. The church forced them to become brood mares until their bodies gave out.

Ethel Kennedy was exactly like those women. I believe every story about her being a cold, nonmaternal, angry mother. I would have been terrified of her if I met her when I was a kid.

IMO, Ethel getting pregnant all the time was her way of proving that she and RFK were still fucking. (RFK had so many side women.)

r195 it was so awful. Too many kids to raise properly, and the older kids were basically indentured servants with no lives of their own. The houses they lived in were packed, there was zero privacy. The mothers and fathers were overwhelmed and couldn't be good parents. That kind of upbringing did a lot of damage to people.

[QUOTE]The Shriners were every Kennedy’s fav cousins—the least fucked up.

Oh, r185, I love you for the image the little predictive correction spurred in my head. I'm imagining fat guys in Ben Ali fezes racing around in undersized go-carts.

Scroll down at link.

R195 is a dumb Pissspailer—the Church never forced children. It forbade birth control…two different things. Lots of Catholics couldn’t or didn’t have large families. They knew how to count days in a cycle, or they lied to their priest, or they were infertile or they just didn’t have P-V sex. In my own immediate family, relatives ran the spectrum: no natural children to 14 children with 1, 2 3, 4, 5, or 8 in between the extremes.

[QUOTE]the Church never forced children. It forbade birth control…

Never stop being as uninformed and illogically and irrationally stupid as Trump. In fact, you need to be more vocal and prominent on SM to expose your ignorance and irrationality about church doctrine.

I suspect you've never heard about Casti connubii and it's supposed "theological" underpinnings of birth control.

R199 - can you tell us about Onanism and what its actual meaning is?

R199. Strictly speaking, I don’t think the Catholic Church is cool with these alternatives topenetrative sex either for the samereasons they oppose contraception.

Neither 200 or 201 maje any sense….par for the course.

Casti connubii prohibited birth control. Yes—that is well known…as pointed out.

[QUOTE]Neither 200 or 201 maje any sense….par for the course.

Explain yourself. And Onanism, if you can. TIA.

R202. It’s what the Catholic Church teaches. Why are you ashamed of it?

I went to Catholic school. There were families of all sizes. I can guarantee you that the women were taking the pill and having abortions and using whatever birth control was available to them.

These people with the huge families are making some kind of statement, like the Duggars. People know how to keep a family down to a certain size. Yes, there may have been ONE oops baby, but not 5.

R206. Yes. Most Catholics are cafeteria Catholics. Everyone knows this. That doesn’t mean the church itself has dropped any of its batshit crazy dogmas.

^ And it means the craziest still rule

Didn't we used to have an authenticated poster here named Onan the Barbarian here back in the day?

Poor Joan.

Joan would have made one of the most interesting first ladies ever.

WTF is up with the Kennedys?

Last Thursday night, Ethel was resting comfortably recovering in an unnamed hospital in an unnamed city from a stroke suffered the previous week. Last Friday morning she was dead and over the weekend it was announced she died in Boston but not where. Last night the funeral was announced for 11am this morning in Hyannis as private and by invitation only. There was no wake. Presumably that means RFK Jr can’t invite Trump.

But why the secrecy? She was 96. People die.

I'm sure there wouldn't be this much "secrecy" had her son not been running around making a complete ass of himself for the past few years, R212. They don't want this turning into a circus-- HIS circus.

They didn’t want anyone seeing Bobby tying her corpse to the roof of the car for the drive to Central Park.

He didn’t bring enough plastic bags for the mourner’s heads, so poor Joan is out of luck again.

Did the funeral happen yet? Is it being televised. Sorry I want to see RFK Jr. interact with the Clan.

There were times when she was presentable.

For R215

Patrick was the only recognizable one...

Were Peter Lawford's eyebrows there?

Lawford was beautiful back in the day-(1940’s)

[quote]But why the secrecy? She was 96. People die.

They wanted no chance of Dump or Elon Musk or any of the other MAGA whack jobs that Bobby associates with showing up there.

Every Kleenex box on Cape Cod has been lowered to half-nostril.

Can someone help me get a ballot so I can vote for Trump.

I'm so glad my Bouvier Mummy told me to never mix with the Skakel trash, you know.

Has Jack Schlossberg posted from the funeral on TikTok yet?

I met Ted in person when he was traveling to various cities conducting hearings in the early 90's. Maybe 90-91? Anyway he wore a back brace, he wore very thick soled therapeutic shoes, and looked like the Pillsbury Doughboy. He was very nice. He had a distinctive voice, and his staff asked us where he could go to mass. They were very young, and very devoted to him. He was only in town overnight but his advance team arrived 5 days head to make sure everything was as he wanted it. When they left, the next day there were hand written thank you notes for five of us local staffers who helped his people set things up. I still have mine somewhere.

Ethel's parents, and her two kids, as well as her in laws are in the family cemetery in Brookline, MA. She was always competitive with Jackie so I would bet she will insist on Arlington. Difference is that Jackie was The First Lady while Ethel was a uterus.

I can't imagine someone being pregnant 11 times. Her body must have been destroyed.

I have to say, Patrick looks pretty good, all things considered. Yeah, he's old, but he looks relatively fit, got an impressive head of hair & he doesn't have that vacant-eyed bewildered look that he has in the past. He must be taking his meds & staying out of trouble, so good for him.

Where did this twaddle about Ethel being a champion of social justice come from?

She didn't help The Help clean up the endless dog shit at Hickory Hill.

[quote] Anyway he wore a back brace

Ted nearly died in a June 1964 plane crash.

Was Caroline there? The funeral was at the church she was married at.

The at place?

R231 yes. The NY Post had many pics of who was there. Everyone you would expect. I didn’t see Joan however. Ethel’s kids, grandkids, and great grandkids are a small army, so it was mainly them. But there were pics of Caroline, Maria and Anthony Shriver too.

ummmm Aunt Ethel umm yeah ummm OK.

Was Joan there?

What did they serve?

No. Joan had a keg party to go to.

Did not know much about Ethel till now that she’s dead. Assumed she was this hands on mom/grandma-Nope. Assumed she was responsible with money and didn’t shoplift or charge and return items-Nope. Assumed she was easy going/big hearted with family and in-laws and wasn’t a SKAKLE-Nope. I learn so much on this platform.

r238 she was a crass, crude selfish bitch. The book "The Other Mrs. Kennedy" has lots of stories.

Don't know why, but I thought Joan Kennedy was dead.

Thanks R239- Truly laughing out loud!

Joan was the most interesting of the Kennedy women to me. She even occasionally played piano with the Boston Pops. In 1964 she was pretty much the candidate for Ted's reelection when he had the back injury. She just seemed to fragile to have been thrust into this family.

r241 I recommend the book, full of firsthand anecdotes from sales clerks and "the help" at Hickory Hill and Hyannisport. It's essentially a book that was written for DLers.

What is wrong with Joseph Kennedy II?

Jesus H. When did Caroline turn 92?

He’s 72, r244.

If Caroline’s 92 that makes me - OMG!

R246, as I've noticed in other recent pics, he no longer walks unassisted.

Notwithstanding her wrinkled visage, Caroline remains a handsome woman.

HI CAMILLA!

Bobby's son, Aidan, is quite handsome.

Thanks r248, I didn’t know that. It’s kind of young actually to need assistance walking.

Caroline has never believed in facial moisturizers or hair conditioners. A regular hyularonic regime and hot oil treatments would help, but she’s from a class that often doesn’t feel the need for cosmetic intervention. She is who she is - Ambassador to an American ally and really rather rich. Obviously she never wanted to compete with her fabled mother in the style stakes so why bother?

She has no need to try and impress.

R250, Camilla, unlike Caroline, is not a handsome woman.

Is she still dead, late contributors?

She's fine. She asked me to send her love. She's getting settled in.

Cheryl wore her Michael Jackson/Peter pan nose-sweet…

[quote]Jesus H. When did Caroline turn 92?

The Kennedy women have always aged like milk.

[quote]as I've noticed in other recent pics, he no longer walks unassisted.

I noticed this too, about Joe For Oil, as we called him in Boston (Joe II). This is the 2nd or 3rd public event in as many years I've seen him needing crutches or help walking. I wonder what's up.

Not only Bobby, but now Kerry, have the dysphonic voice issue that their grandmother Rose also had, that wavering/quivering vocal issue that is hard to listen to

I saw Caroline on the sidewalk, @ 1275 York, about two weeks ago. She’s tiny, and unassuming up close.

Bobby's son Aidan needs a haircut but is indeed hot.

I see that Andrew Cuomo paid his respects for his former MIL - & grandmother of his children.

White Trash Royalty

Hawt Adrian!

Adrian….!!

No word on a local burial site, no one in the media has mentioned that she was buried locally or in the family plot in Holyhood in Brookline, so I'm assuming she will be flown to DC for burial at Arlington in the coming weeks. There will be another public graveside service with many of the family there, again.

I’m sure Aidan would look hot with a haircut but he’s still mighty handsome as is.

‘’I don’t mind going if a lunch is provided but I must be fed’’

Aidan? Never mind

Cheryl looks like a Who from Whoville

She sho was no Mamie.

R242 - he failed to get his mother's death reversed by The Vatican.

Andrew Cuomo looks like Robert Blake in "Lost Highway."

Christopher Schwarzenegger looks quite hot now.

Yes, we're all getting older, but...

Caroline at 67 next month is wrinkled way beyond her years.

So is 57-year old Patrick Kennedy, Teddy's son and former member of Congress. Joe Kennedy also looks older than 72, which he tuned last month.

All of the Kennedys spent way too much time in the sun and out on the boat in Hyannisport. No sunscreen and no moisturizer. They sure look old before their time now.

[quote]No word on a local burial site, no one in the media has mentioned that she was buried locally or in the family plot in Holyhood in Brookline, so I'm assuming she will be flown to DC for burial at Arlington in the coming weeks.

The Dumpster likely commanded his servant Bobby to have her buried on the 9th hole of the Bedford Golf Club.

In addition to Bobby & Cheryl, it looks like they brought the psycho daughter accused of cyberbullying a reporter.

[quote]All of the Kennedys spent way too much time in the sun and out on the boat in Hyannisport. No sunscreen

I keep trying to tell you whores! Wear your sunscreen so we won't mock you next time you're in the New York Post.

Caro[italic]lined[/italic] Kennedy

[quote] Caroline at 67 next month is wrinkled way beyond her years.

I went with my sister to her 50th high school reunion last month & I can tell you that, wrinkles & all, Caroline would've fit in quite well there. And this was no Appalachian high school.

She had her very own type of alcohol. This was her greatest achievement!!!

I bet Joan has swigged rubbing alcohol or mouthwash before

Joan probably had her own fucking still.

I can't find the quote, but I'm sure I remember reading an interview Joan did where she said Jackie took her aside the first time she went to the Kennedy Compound. She said something along the lines of "we need to stick together" because the Kennedys were so boisterous.

Ethel was just a mean, angry bee her whole fucking life.

R279 Says the lady who sprayed a can of Adorn down her throat for the alcohol.