Eldergays, have you ever been married to a woman?

None too smart, eh?

“…figured I was bisexual, sort of…”

Oy vey.

Those inellectual Quebecois. You can tell by the accent alone, and the smoked meat on their breath

Did she have the kid?

Exactly r1

💋 Quebecois hockey players: Phat asses and uncut cock.

You made the wrong choice!

She was the perfect hag. A beautiful blonde version of Romy Schneider. We loved watching Dynasty and Falcon Crest together in bed.

I've married BRIEFCASES of women!

Mon Dieu! If watching Dynasty and Falcon Crest together doesn’t form the basis form a strong and lasting marriage at 22 what hope is there for the rest of us?

*Merde! I was so shaken I failed to see the second, unnecessary em, above.

I was married. I was raped. I was divorced

[quote]I got a girlfriend pregnant at age 22

Were condoms not a thing in 1981? I am confused.

I feel like there's a cutoff around the early 90's when getting married early was no longer a thing and more gay guys had time to come out.

I know of so many gay men born between 1955 and 1965 who were once married to women. My ex was one of them. Literally every one of my gay neighbors in Palm Springs was married to a woman at one point - except the younger couple down the street.

Many of them talk about how they wished they were out younger and what they missed out on. I tell them they missed out on a lot of parties and sex - but they also missed AIDS, homophobia, family shunning you and limited opportunities. They skipped the bad times and came out when it was more accepted. Many of them would have died - seriously.

I suspect you’re right r13. Gen X didn’t really go for lavender marriages.

I’m a Gen Xer — born in 1969.

I was never married to a woman, but I can see how it happened so often and probably very few of those marriages were lavender, especially for the folks my age or older. I think it’s really difficult for people younger than I am to comprehend how much society influenced (consciously and subconsciously) influenced people into denying who they were. I believe many, many tortured souls were denying their tru identities without even realizing that that was what was happening.

Yes.

R15 - they're still out there. For all the gay men who were married to women who had the guts to leave and get divorced - and believe me, that takes a LOT of guts. Nobody understands, you're the bad guy - you lose your standing, see your kids less, etc.

These guys who came out are still a minority - the majority stayed married, I'm convinced of it. Particularly outside of 'blue' areas.

They'd lose everything if they left their wives - and starting out in the gay world in your 40s, 50s, or 60s can be bewildering and hard to navigate. I can't imagine what it would be like if you came out after living in a red area and all your contacts are Republicans or MAGAs.

Even in 2024, coming out is an act of extreme courage and is difficult.

R17 of course they are the bad guys. They roped someone else into their lies to gain social standing. Plenty of gay men lived as bachelors to avoid hurting people.

And I don't believe for one second they didn't know they were attracted to men.

Yes. It lasted almost two years. I tried, I really did, but like they say, “shit happens”. Almost 50 years later, we are still Facebook friends.

Yes I was. It wasn’t the sham that some of you think it was.

R18 - being attracted to men and a) knowing and identifying it and b) acting on it are very big steps.

Many of them loved their wives, but more as friends.

Denial can be SO strong - it really can. And it was a lot easier when getting your hands on gay porn was difficult - almost impossible outside of big cities.

Can you imagine never seeing two men kissing or fucking ever in your life? It happened back then.

I was married to a woman, then became a woman, who then dated only women who had once been men.

Top that, OP…..

Any more pregnancies?